Nissan 370Z Forum  

Lightweight or Mid-weight flywheel?

Originally Posted by Dentt42 The response on my car was abysmal with the stock one. It was like they were trying to hinder performance where it wasn’t necessary. Drivability and

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree22Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-07-2020, 09:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Alabama
Age: 29
Posts: 420
Drives: 17 370Z 6MT
Rep Power: 3365
Whjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentt42 View Post
The response on my car was abysmal with the stock one. It was like they were trying to hinder performance where it wasn’t necessary.
Drivability and quiet. The extra weight of the OEM dual mass makes it easier to drive, specifically from a stop and has a urethane dampener that keeps it from chattering.
RanRich likes this.
__________________
377whp/299wtq NA
704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5
IG: pearlywhite.z
Whjaxn17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2020, 10:17 AM   #17 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Dentt42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 82
Drives: 2012 G37 black 6spd
Rep Power: 6
Dentt42 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 View Post
Drivability and quiet. The extra weight of the OEM dual mass makes it easier to drive, specifically from a stop and has a urethane dampener that keeps it from chattering.
I know what they were thinking it would accomplish, but my EXEDY kit is significantly easier to drive, and it's got a solid flywheel that's 10 lbs. lighter. It doesn't have that weird over-center feel pressing and releasing the pedal, and feathers out smoothly even when I'm half-assing it expecting a little bit of bucking. I admit the pedal feel was likely partly due to wear, but like I noted in my earlier post, I (personally) don't feel any need to install an RJM pedal with the EXEDY kit as it functions now.

The only increase in noise is the tiniest bit of rattle when sitting at idle from the bouncing clutch fingers. You can hear it running the car next to a wall, such as pulling through a drive-through. It's got close to zero chatter, and I'd be so bold as to say less than the stock (maybe stock replacement) clutch that was in there before.

When I had my previous G37 I had them install a solid nodular flywheel from Z1 and a new stock replacement clutch. It rattled badly enough that I thought something was wrong at first, and then later found just life with these cars. Point is, if a specialty company like EXEDY can built a street clutch set that performs better in very way while remaining very easy to drive and stay quiet, I have no idea why a company like Nissan with millions in R&D could not.
Dentt42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2020, 10:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Alabama
Age: 29
Posts: 420
Drives: 17 370Z 6MT
Rep Power: 3365
Whjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentt42 View Post
I know what they were thinking it would accomplish, but my EXEDY kit is significantly easier to drive, and it's got a solid flywheel that's 10 lbs. lighter. It doesn't have that weird over-center feel pressing and releasing the pedal, and feathers out smoothly even when I'm half-assing it expecting a little bit of bucking. I admit the pedal feel was likely partly due to wear, but like I noted in my earlier post, I (personally) don't feel any need to install an RJM pedal with the EXEDY kit as it functions now.

The only increase in noise is the tiniest bit of rattle when sitting at idle from the bouncing clutch fingers. You can hear it running the car next to a wall, such as pulling through a drive-through. It's got close to zero chatter, and I'd be so bold as to say less than the stock (maybe stock replacement) clutch that was in there before.

When I had my previous G37 I had them install a solid nodular flywheel from Z1 and a new stock replacement clutch. It rattled badly enough that I thought something was wrong at first, and then later found just life with these cars. Point is, if a specialty company like EXEDY can built a street clutch set that performs better in very way while remaining very easy to drive and stay quiet, I have no idea why a company like Nissan with millions in R&D could not.
Mine sounds like a diesel idle but the 19 or 20 models are now coming with an Exedy clutch. I don't know how deep the changes go, so not sure if the flywheels are any lighter or different in any way, though.
__________________
377whp/299wtq NA
704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5
IG: pearlywhite.z

Last edited by Whjaxn17; 05-07-2020 at 01:21 PM.
Whjaxn17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2020, 01:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Dentt42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 82
Drives: 2012 G37 black 6spd
Rep Power: 6
Dentt42 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 View Post
Mine sounds like a diesel idle but the 19 or 20 models are now coming with an Exedy clutch. I don't know how deep the changes go to, so not sure if the flywheels are any lighter or different in any way, though.
That's exactly what the clutch in my previous G sounded like.
Dentt42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2020, 06:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Cibolo, TX
Posts: 9
Drives: 2020 Deep Blue Pearl
Rep Power: 6
Swaffy is on a distinguished road
Default

Hello, everyone. I didn't want to create a new thread (reducing clutter) so I'm asking here.

I'm looking for a good 10 to 12lb flywheel for my 2015 370z. Noise is no issue, I've been looking many places for one and can't seem to find one.

The only one I found is this, but I'm not even sure if it fits, nor the quality...
Competition Clutch: Forged Single Mass Flywheel

I heard about a South Bend stage 3 flywheel that weighs 12 lbs but I can't find any actual part for it (only a review).

Any help would be godly
__________________
2020 Deep Blue Pearl, manual
IG Lofi.z34
Swaffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2020, 09:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Jimbo370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 466
Drives: 09 black 370z MT
Rep Power: 11
Jimbo370 is on a distinguished road
Default

here is 1 for u. https://www.z1motorsports.com/clutch...6.html:tiphat:
Jimbo370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2020, 04:32 PM   #22 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Alabama
Age: 29
Posts: 420
Drives: 17 370Z 6MT
Rep Power: 3365
Whjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond reputeWhjaxn17 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swaffy View Post
Hello, everyone. I didn't want to create a new thread (reducing clutter) so I'm asking here.

I'm looking for a good 10 to 12lb flywheel for my 2015 370z. Noise is no issue, I've been looking many places for one and can't seem to find one.

The only one I found is this, but I'm not even sure if it fits, nor the quality...
Competition Clutch: Forged Single Mass Flywheel

I heard about a South Bend stage 3 flywheel that weighs 12 lbs but I can't find any actual part for it (only a review).

Any help would be godly
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...el-p-9154.html
__________________
377whp/299wtq NA
704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5
IG: pearlywhite.z
Whjaxn17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2021, 11:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
Track Member
 
wdkwang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: N/A
Posts: 899
Drives: slidewayz
Rep Power: 21
wdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bcfromfl View Post
I have the ZSpeed EZStreet Stage 2 clutch/flywheel combo, and I highly recommend this one for its overall performance. Joe told me he'd rate it conservatively to 400tq, but the pedal pressure is just a bit more than stock. No longer will you get the "rubber band" lash trying to ease into 1st, and it just feels plain solid.

The flywheel is 20 pounds, and I thought this would be too light. However, it is just right!
How's the chatter at idle? Thanks
__________________
Powerhouse Amuse | K&N Typhoon Intakes | MotorDyne ART Pipes | Borla Catback Exhaust | B&M Short Shifter | Intake Ducts | Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers | Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap | Tints | 10000k HIDs | Vtak, yo!
wdkwang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2021, 07:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Dallas
Posts: 23
Drives: 12 370Z GM 6spd spt
Rep Power: 13
Kamari is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boosted180 View Post
I'm about to have a shop do my clutch/ flywheel/ CSC and trying to decide to go with a lightweight or "mid-weight" flywheel. Is the only disadvantage of the lightweight flywheel the noise? I was also told that the midweight is a waste of money to either stay stock or go to the lightweight one.

Any of you have the mid-weight and do you like it and did you feel a difference?

Thanks.

I have not used the car for anything other than street driving in recent years, but plan to get back to the track at some point. It doesn't have any big power mods and I will keep it that way.
What was your lead time in ordering the hardware? I'm stuck in the same situation with a bad CSC & clutch, and the recommendation is to swap out the flywheel as well. Problem is that I've looked at Z1, ZSpeed and a couple others but everybody is on back order. Meanwhile my car is sitting in a shop with a mechanic waiting on a decision. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay a grand for an OEM flywheel and another 1050 for a OEM clutch.
Kamari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2021, 08:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
Track Member
 
wdkwang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: N/A
Posts: 899
Drives: slidewayz
Rep Power: 21
wdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond reputewdkwang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I haven't ordered it yet so I can't provide a lead time. However, I'm certain I'll be purchasing the ZSpeed kit based on all the reviews I've been reading.
__________________
Powerhouse Amuse | K&N Typhoon Intakes | MotorDyne ART Pipes | Borla Catback Exhaust | B&M Short Shifter | Intake Ducts | Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers | Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap | Tints | 10000k HIDs | Vtak, yo!
wdkwang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2021, 10:48 AM   #26 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 43
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684440
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I specifically did not buy the "quiet disc" clutch package from Joe and asked for a light flywheel (ended up at 17lbs). I am disappointed that my clutch does not chatter at all
Rusty and Hotrodz like this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2021, 01:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 68
Posts: 35,217
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684438
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by JARblue View Post
I specifically did not buy the "quiet disc" clutch package from Joe and asked for a light flywheel (ended up at 17lbs). I am disappointed that my clutch does not chatter at all
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Because Racecar II.jpg (5.9 KB, 9 views)
JARblue and Hotrodz like this.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2021, 12:52 AM   #28 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Youngstown, FL
Posts: 256
Drives: 2015 PW Nismo 6MT
Rep Power: 9
bcfromfl will become famous soon enoughbcfromfl will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wdkwang View Post
How's the chatter at idle? Thanks
No chatter at idle. Sometimes a little chatter slipping into 1st, but barely noticeable. It operates EXACTLY like I prefer, and the operation is a thousand times more precise than OEM.
__________________
Michelin PS4S 275/35F, 305/30R /// Exhaust: Motordyne ART Pipes, Garageline X and Mid-Pipe Combo /// Clutch: ZSpeed EZ-Street Stage II, RJM HD Master Cylinder
bcfromfl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2024, 07:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Ronin06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Urbandale, Iowa
Posts: 87
Drives: 14 silver sport 370Z
Rep Power: 11
Ronin06 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnydrama View Post
I have the lightweight and can say it's honestly one of my favorite modifications to my car. The way the engine Revs is night and day. For me the chatter doesn't bother me and I had my tuner increase my idling RPMs a couple of hundred which reduced the chatter to where its hardly noticable. However, I have heard some people are more sensitive to it than others. For me I cared more about the performance gain and how the cars sounds while driving/reving. Also if I was going to pay the same money for the flywheel and labor for the install, I wanted to go as light as possible.

Maybe someone who has gone the Midweight option can speak to there experience. I believe they recommend them primarily for people who drag race the car and/or those who are sensitive to chatter.

Good idea about bumping the idle up a little.
Ronin06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2024, 04:44 AM   #30 (permalink)
Track Member
 
filip00's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: slovenia
Posts: 558
Drives: 370z pack
Rep Power: 125427
filip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond reputefilip00 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I really shouldn't have found this thread. Now I'm thinking about upgrading the flywheel next year or the year after, when I'll be upgrading the clutch.
__________________
ride epic drive epic
filip00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
lightweight flywheel good or bad? mike12002us Nissan 370Z General Discussions 25 07-21-2014 11:32 PM
Lightweight flywheel without the noise? jmlenz Forced Induction 30 03-19-2013 12:01 PM
[FOR SALE] JWT clutch and lightweight flywheel like new tturbo370z Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 19 12-16-2012 03:28 PM
[WTB] Lightweight flywheel biggestsack Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 0 06-11-2012 11:07 PM
[FOR SALE] JWT Aluminum Lightweight Flywheel Staples Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 3 03-11-2012 03:11 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2