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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter I don't want an aluminum flywheel and the iron JWT flywheel is 26lbs. What problems are they having? I've seen nothing but praise with the V2.

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Old 05-28-2019, 10:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't want an aluminum flywheel and the iron JWT flywheel is 26lbs.



What problems are they having? I've seen nothing but praise with the V2.

You're relocating something out of the original location the engineers designed it to be and work in. Just like someone said, there are teething problems because of always adjusting the clutch and the install is a little more time consuming versus basically just doing a regular clutch install like the Heavy Duty CSC. The pedal feel is also consistent as well. The heavy duty CSC also costs less. Z Speed makes both the CMAK and the HD CSC, talk to them. Also, I thought you didn't care for the heavier flywheels? Why not just get the 15 or 14lb ones and call it a day?
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You're relocating something out of the original location the engineers designed it to be and work in. Just like someone said, there are teething problems because of always adjusting the clutch and the install is a little more time consuming versus basically just doing a regular clutch install like the Heavy Duty CSC. The pedal feel is also consistent as well. The heavy duty CSC also costs less. Z Speed makes both the CMAK and the HD CSC, talk to them. Also, I thought you didn't care for the heavier flywheels? Why not just get the 15 or 14lb ones and call it a day?
It's almost like you didn't read the thread at all.

As I said above a few days ago, going with Z1 14lb flywheel.

Other than guessing that moving to a cmak will cause issues just because, can you point to any thread where people are having problems with the V3.x cmaks. Any actual instances of recurring issues? I have seen nothing but praise since the V2 was released. If I missed something post some links, until then it's either hearsay or conjecture.

And I'll say it again. The trans won't go back in the car with the hydraulics inside the bell housing. I don't care how great the HDCSC might be. If it fails the trans has to come out and there is a good chance it will ruin the clutch disk when it sprays brake fluid inside the bell housing when it goes. Until I smoke this clutch the trans is staying in the car.

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It's almost like you didn't read the thread at all.

As I said above a few days ago, going with Z1 14lb flywheel.

Other than guessing that moving to a cmak will cause issues just because, can you point to any thread where people are having problems with the V3.x cmaks. Any actual instances of recurring issues? I have seen nothing but praise since the V2 was released. If I missed something post some links, until then it's either hearsay or conjecture.

And I'll say it again. The trans won't go back in the car with the hydraulics inside the bell housing. I don't care how great the HDCSC might be. If it fails the trans has to come out and there is a good chance it will ruin the clutch disk when it sprays brake fluid inside the bell housing when it goes. Until I smoke this clutch the trans is staying in the car.

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Call Z Speed, they literally make BOTH of them and did testing on both of them. It was the Owner of L Spec in California that talked about the CMAK issues and Z Speed recommending the HD CSC over the CMAK when I was planning on getting the CMAK. That was a while ago and so I don't have links for you except those two companies
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Yes but there has to be reason why they went back to that, they aren't Porsche where they are stubborn and won't change a design.
Umm... I would argue that the CSC and ESCL issues on the 370Z are excellent examples of Nissan being stubborn. Bottom line is a recall doesn't happen until the money says it's ok. I wonder how many people paid $1000+ for ESCL replacement before issuing the recall and then removing it altogether.

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And I'll say it again. The trans won't go back in the car with the hydraulics inside the bell housing. I don't care how great the HDCSC might be. If it fails the trans has to come out and there is a good chance it will ruin the clutch disk when it sprays brake fluid inside the bell housing when it goes. Until I smoke this clutch the trans is staying in the car.
Good call. That's why I went with the Z1 kit back in the day over the HDCSC from Joe. I probably ended up with more issues but I never had to drop the transmission again even when I was having to screw with the Z1 kit. New clutch is an opportunity to upgrade to the CMAK now
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I'm going to talk to Joe in October. I have some ideas that I want to discuss with him. Something along the lines of 14 to 17 flywheel, the TR series of OS Giken or a Tilton clutch, and his CMAK.

The idea behind the light weight flywheel is to reduce rotating mass. If you can do it with a combination of flywheel and pressure plate without losing strength and heat dissipation and still meet your goals is even better.
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I'm going to talk to Joe in October. I have some ideas that I want to discuss with him. Something along the lines of 14 to 17 flywheel, the TR series of OS Giken or a Tilton clutch, and his CMAK.



The idea behind the light weight flywheel is to reduce rotating mass. If you can do it with a combination of flywheel and pressure plate without losing strength and heat dissipation and still meet your goals is even better.
I'm going to toss the idea to Joe when I email him tonight and see what he has to say. Seems like he thinks the Z1 FW is too thin and guessing he will steer me tword the 17lb.

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