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Is it necessary to ger an Oil Cooler?

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY I’m still using the stock size. You’ll find out why you don’t want to go bigger if you change your own oil. It’s a bitch

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I’m still using the stock size. You’ll find out why you don’t want to go bigger if you change your own oil. It’s a bitch getting the filter on and off.
Why would people run larger filters though? Whats the purpose or benefit behind using a bigger one versus our OE filter? :/
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Why would people run larger filters though? Whats the purpose or benefit behind using a bigger one versus our OE filter? :/
To capture more particles in the oil. Or because those people are compensating for their undersized manhood.

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Why would people run larger filters though? Whats the purpose or benefit behind using a bigger one versus our OE filter? :/
Everything else being the same, larger filters work better - as mentioned above, they will hold more dirt before plugging up (and there will be slightly less pressure drop). But, if you are changing your oil/filter frequently, it shouldn't make any difference - you will be changing the filter before it get saturated with dirt. If you extend the time between changes, a larger filter might be of some benefit.
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Nissan Titan filters probably really bother the owners.
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Nissan Titan filters probably really bother the owners.
If I remember correctly, the Z and the Titan run the same filter.
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Reminds me of when i pulled off the oil pan, saw the oil strainer, and said out loud "wtf? I thought this car was a she..."

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An oil cooler is just a big heatsink for the oil. Setrab core is just a higher quality heatsink - cheap ones can get punctured by a rock while driving, which will really ruin your day.

The thermostatic sandwich plate closes when temps are cool and opens when temps heat up. This helps the oil in the engine heat up faster after a cold start than if it were being pumped through the oil cooler. The block off plate basically is a poor man's thermostat - thin piece of sheet metal and some hi-temp velco on the front of the oil cooler will do the trick - for when the cold winter air during casual driving is cooling off the oil too much.

The plate only shuts off the lines to the oil cooler - the filter is still working. That would a horrible design if not.

The oil pump is what moves engine oil through the oil filter. The oil cooler doesn't turn on and off. When you plumb in an oil cooler to the system, it just gives the oil another path to go. The thermostat controls that path and opens it at a certain temperature.
So I don't need a block off plate being that I'm going to purchase the Thermo Plate, yeah? So pretty much this Thermo Plate just controls oil temp and without it, I'd be fu'cked? Also do I really need to mock up a "block off plate" or can I live without it? Lol. Also during this install, I don't need to remove my stock Oil Cooler do I? Lemme know. Thanks
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If I remember correctly, the Z and the Titan run the same filter.
Nah Titans have 9E, Z's are 65F0E
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Everything else being the same, larger filters work better - as mentioned above, they will hold more dirt before plugging up (and there will be slightly less pressure drop). But, if you are changing your oil/filter frequently, it shouldn't make any difference - you will be changing the filter before it get saturated with dirt. If you extend the time between changes, a larger filter might be of some benefit.
Got it! Yeah I do my own work, oil changes I do ever 3k even though I use Fully Synthetic, its just a piece of mind. So OE Filer will do. Thanks!
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Setrab is a core in the oil cooler, helps you flex on the haters. I'm kidding, about the flexing part. If you go to Z1 you will see that their oil cooler options gives you a choice between a Setrab core or a Mocal Core. Both are very good brands, however I went with Setrab since it has some high end customers it supplies to:

We supply many of the world’s premium car brands, e.g. Aston Martin, Audi, Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lexus, Lotus, and Mercedes, as well as many other vehicle manufacturers, e.g. Bobcat, Husqvarna, Scania, Volvo, and Wirtgen. Our products are also highly suitable for a number of stationary applications

Also the Setrab cost more than the Mocal, just thought I'd share that so you are not blown away. Oh, make sure you get the protected braided lines and thermostatic plate as well to deal with cooler temps in the fall and winter.

All in all I would go with Z1 for the oil cooler, but that's my opinion. Fast Intentions make a wicked product to.
Perfect I'll make sure not to cheap out on my Z. Thank you for the info!
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So I don't need a block off plate being that I'm going to purchase the Thermo Plate, yeah? So pretty much this Thermo Plate just controls oil temp and without it, I'd be fu'cked? Also do I really need to mock up a "block off plate" or can I live without it? Lol. Also during this install, I don't need to remove my stock Oil Cooler do I? Lemme know. Thanks
Block off plate can literally be lines of duct tape that you put on the front of your oil cooler during the winter. Thermo plate stops oil from flowing unimpeded to the cooler before your engine is warm enough... so basically yes. And yes you keep your stock oil cooler on the car

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Background. I have the Z1 34 row oil cooler. Been running it for years. My opinion. There is only 2 oil coolers to get. The Z1 or the FI 34 row coolers. Get a 34 row cooler. The smaller coolers will help, but may not be large enough sometimes. You can always add some block plates if the oil is too cold.

The stock oil filter will fit with the thermostatic plate. Which is a must, unless you are a totally track car. When closed. The plate is still open about 10%. This is to warm the oil in the cooler. The why to this is because you don't want cold oil flowing into a hot motor when the plate opens fully. This would cause some thermo shock to some engine parts.

Oil flow.

When cold. From the oil pump to the thermostatic plate. (About 10% of oil will flow to the cooler and back to the oil passages.) From the plate to the filter. Filter to the oil passages.

When hot. From oil pump to plate. From plate to cooler, Cooler to filter, Filter to oil passages.
See that's the only thing out of the entire explanation that everyone has given me, what the hell are block off plates???? Like what?! Lol Like do I truly need them? Where do I get them? Where do they bolt onto?? I'm so confusion :/ and no I'm not taking my Z to the track maybe ever. So if I don't run a Thermo Plate I'll risk having cold oil going into a hot motor. Got cha. Thermo Plate for sure in my purchase!
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Block off plate can literally be lines of duct tape that you put on the front of your oil cooler during the winter. Thermo plate stops oil from flowing unimpeded to the cooler before your engine is warm enough... so basically yes. And yes you keep your stock oil cooler on the car

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Lines of Duct Tape lmaoo no way. I was picturing a metal cover BOLTING on some random spot in front of the Cooler haha. Is there any images of people who have covered them? Just so I have an idea. My main question is, DO I NEED to cover the cooler? :/ also If I do cover the oil cooler, I just simply remove it in the Spring?

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