Track Oil Temp Issues, looking for options.

Hotrodz · 05-06-2019, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

I've only been around since the Crown Vic era. Makes sense though. Your splitter ameliorates this issue? Or are you auditioning for "The Miracle of Flight" lol

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LMAO, I no desire to become an aviator in my racecar!

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Rusty · 05-06-2019, 03:42 PM

Going forward, you have down force. Going backwards, you have lift.

Rusty · 05-06-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The tracks I run in AZ and CA during the spring and summer will see temps over a 100*. Being boosted only add heat so I have taken some extreme measures. I have a Greddy extended oil pan, upgraded the oil pump gears, added a 72 row oil cooler, switched from a Fugimura hood back to OEM with Trackspec hood vents, Zspeed under tray, and cut vents into the front bumper. My oil temps are dependent on the track configuration. If the track is less than 1.5 miles long it is very hard to have enough straight away to allow the oil temps to fall before rising again and I will hit temps about 260 to 265. Traffic on a small track is killer! My water temps stay in the normal range other than extended time behind cars on short tracks. I still don't see high water temps. The one of the best things about the hood vents is if you slow or pull in the pits the temps drop quickly. I have to remember to check my temps before I leave the track because they start falling on the cool down lap. Here is how she looked before my engine went boom. I will be adding side vents like Rusty and opening a large whole in the fender well.

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I'm going to be cutting a larger hole in the fender liner later on.

Hotrodz · 05-06-2019, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I'm going to be cutting a larger hole in the fender liner later on.

I think those fender liners hold a lot more heat in the engine bay than we realize. That area holds a lot of air an is a parachute do to it being low pressure and it creates lift at the same time.

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BettyZ · 05-06-2019, 07:12 PM

Hmm. Sounds like it's time for Mr. Fender to meet Mr. Angle Grinder.

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Rusty · 05-06-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Hmm. Sounds like it's time for Mr. Fender to meet Mr. Angle Grinder.

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Be careful. The fender liner cut easy with a 4" fiber cut off wheel.

BettyZ · 05-06-2019, 09:12 PM

I hear ya. I wonder how easily it'd cut with a hot knife.

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andy_meng1024 · 05-07-2019, 12:27 AM

I have 2* 34row coolers in parallel, CSF triple pass radiator, SPAL fans, Zele front bumper, Varis kamikaze hood, Varis fender, front fender liner delete, and Mishimoto 68C/154.5F thermostat for oil temp and water temp control. My car is capable of doing endurance race and oil temp remains at around 110C/230F at around 40C/104F ambient temp here in Taiwan.

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BettyZ · 05-07-2019, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by andy_meng1024

I have 2* 34row coolers in parallel, CSF triple pass radiator, SPAL fans, Zele front bumper, Varis kamikaze hood, Varis fender, front fender liner delete, and Mishimoto 68C/154.5F thermostat for oil temp and water temp control. My car is capable of doing endurance race and oil temp remains at around 110C/230F at around 40C/104F ambient temp here in Taiwan.

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Danggggg you got it going ON. looks like theres room for a 3rd 34 row cooler in the middle tho lol

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mokhan996 · 05-07-2019, 02:28 PM

I was wondering, I'm planning to get a Mishimoto Oil Cooler just because I feel as if my oil temps get too high, highest I've seen mine go was around 240 ON A DAILY COMMUTE. Never tracked my car. I was wondering if anyone here can help me understand if its a waste of money to get the oil cooler and is it bad to get one if I'm not tracking the car?

JARblue · 05-07-2019, 03:01 PM

It's all about what you are going to ask of the car. I went years without one on my Z. Did fine for daily driving. But if I wanted to really hammer on it for more than a few turns, she started pulling timing really quick, especially in the Texas summer heat. For example, the one time I got it out on the track while she was still my daily, I did one warm up lap and by the third full speed lap (with traffic) she was in limp mode on the back straight at COTA. I backed off right away and only experienced any rev-limiting at 5000 RPMs.

Now that I no longer daily drive the Z, I am looking to get her out on the track a lot more. So I purchased a 34 row Fast Intentions oil cooler that will allow me to do more than 3 laps at full speed

GrayGhost · 05-07-2019, 03:24 PM

If you’re running a thermostatic plate, maybe it’s not opening at all or enough.

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BettyZ · 05-07-2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mokhan996

I was wondering, I'm planning to get a Mishimoto Oil Cooler just because I feel as if my oil temps get too high, highest I've seen mine go was around 240 ON A DAILY COMMUTE. Never tracked my car. I was wondering if anyone here can help me understand if its a waste of money to get the oil cooler and is it bad to get one if I'm not tracking the car?

I'd recommend a 25 row cooler, but NOT FROM MISHITMOTO. 99% of their "products" are re-branded Chinese eBay knockoffs that they slap a sticker on and upcharge you by 200%. This forum abounds with stories ab their products failing.

Friends don't let friends buy Mishimoto.

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Rusty · 05-07-2019, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mokhan996

I was wondering, I'm planning to get a Mishimoto Oil Cooler just because I feel as if my oil temps get too high, highest I've seen mine go was around 240 ON A DAILY COMMUTE. Never tracked my car. I was wondering if anyone here can help me understand if its a waste of money to get the oil cooler and is it bad to get one if I'm not tracking the car?

Friends don't let friends buy Mishittymoto. Some of their stuff is just junk.

2 options for an oil cooler. Z1 34 row, or the FI 34 row.

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-10-2019, 08:10 PM

So I just tested the sandwich plate and it works fine. The lines all look fine with no kinks either.

Am I really just beating on this car so hard? I have a pressure gauge on order probably going to mount it in the cubby. And going to fab up some simple baffles.

It's not like I'm in AZ like Hotrodz

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BettyZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicagoland Age: 37 Posts: 5,261 Drives: A Garage Queen Rep Power: 2684371	Hmm. Sounds like it's time for Mr. Fender to meet Mr. Angle Grinder. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ '14 MB Nismo \| Boost Lab 6870 1.32 AR 553 HP / 471 ft.-lbs. Betty Mods

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BettyZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicagoland Age: 37 Posts: 5,261 Drives: A Garage Queen Rep Power: 2684371	I hear ya. I wonder how easily it'd cut with a hot knife. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ '14 MB Nismo \| Boost Lab 6870 1.32 AR 553 HP / 471 ft.-lbs. Betty Mods

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andy_meng1024 Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Taipei Posts: 233 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 3381	I have 2* 34row coolers in parallel, CSF triple pass radiator, SPAL fans, Zele front bumper, Varis kamikaze hood, Varis fender, front fender liner delete, and Mishimoto 68C/154.5F thermostat for oil temp and water temp control. My car is capable of doing endurance race and oil temp remains at around 110C/230F at around 40C/104F ambient temp here in Taiwan. 螢幕快照 2019-05-07 下午12.19.27.jpg AlWakRa, 2011 Nismo#91, Rusty and 5 others like this. __________________ Current: 2015 C200 / 2018 Cayenne / 2012 370z / 2012 C250 Coupe Gone: 2013 Cayenne / 2004 Cayenne S / 2003 SL55 AMG / 2008 C300 / 2006 350z / 2006 C280 4Matic

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	It's all about what you are going to ask of the car. I went years without one on my Z. Did fine for daily driving. But if I wanted to really hammer on it for more than a few turns, she started pulling timing really quick, especially in the Texas summer heat. For example, the one time I got it out on the track while she was still my daily, I did one warm up lap and by the third full speed lap (with traffic) she was in limp mode on the back straight at COTA. I backed off right away and only experienced any rev-limiting at 5000 RPMs. Now that I no longer daily drive the Z, I am looking to get her out on the track a lot more. So I purchased a 34 row Fast Intentions oil cooler that will allow me to do more than 3 laps at full speed __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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mokhan996 Base Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 124 Drives: 2013 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 7	I was wondering, I'm planning to get a Mishimoto Oil Cooler just because I feel as if my oil temps get too high, highest I've seen mine go was around 240 ON A DAILY COMMUTE. Never tracked my car. I was wondering if anyone here can help me understand if its a waste of money to get the oil cooler and is it bad to get one if I'm not tracking the car?

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GrayGhost Base Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 106 Drives: 40TH Rep Power: 8	If you’re running a thermostatic plate, maybe it’s not opening at all or enough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,400 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	So I just tested the sandwich plate and it works fine. The lines all look fine with no kinks either. Am I really just beating on this car so hard? I have a pressure gauge on order probably going to mount it in the cubby. And going to fab up some simple baffles. It's not like I'm in AZ like Hotrodz Rusty and Hotrodz like this. Last edited by 2011 Nismo#91; 05-10-2019 at 09:10 PM.

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