Clutch/flywheel combo options, need help!

Patrickz34 · 03-11-2019, 09:15 PM

Hey guys, I’m stuck between 2 different options of clutch+flywheel combos, I need to replace my oem setup as I’m @ 110k miles and they’re worn out beyond belief.

Option 1
https://zspeed.com/product/south-ben...el-conversion/
W/ quiet option

Option 2
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...bo-p-5170.html
W/ standard fulll face disc and midweight flywheel

Note: I want something not super noisy for daily driving, hence why I didn’t go for the lightweight, way too noisy.

Will option 1&2 both have improved throttle response compared to the OEM setups?

Any pros with going OEM vs these 2 kits? Thanks a lot for any input.

CRiZO · 03-12-2019, 12:24 AM

Seems like you're dailying it with bolt-ons, just go with an OEM clutch. Can't imagine you need a new flywheel at 110k.

Southbend is great too.

Clutch has nothing to do with throttle response. Flywheel weight can make an engine seem more responsive I guess.

JARblue · 03-12-2019, 02:13 AM

Don't know? Ask Joe!

https://zspeed.com/

Throttle response is better addressed with a tune

Quicksilvers · 03-12-2019, 02:33 AM

If your Z is only seeing street duty I would recommend installing the South Bend Stage 2 daily clutch and flywheel kit with quiet option. This clutch and flywheel will last longer than the Genuine Nissan OEM clutch and flywheel and it is more durable/stronger as well. Joe certainly knows his stuff and thank you again Joe for helping out the Z community! Install a Z Speed Performance CMAK Kit as soon as possible if you already have not before it’s too late and your Z ends up riding on the back of a flatbed tow truck lol. Also this is a great time to change your transmission fluid if you have not. Definitely install a brand new flywheel at your mileage.

jchammond · 03-12-2019, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrickz34

Hey guys, I’m stuck between 2 different options of clutch+flywheel combos, I need to replace my oem setup as I’m @ 110k miles and they’re worn out beyond belief.

Option 1
https://zspeed.com/product/south-ben...el-conversion/
W/ quiet option

Option 2
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...bo-p-5170.html
W/ standard fulll face disc and midweight flywheel

Note: I want something not super noisy for daily driving, hence why I didn’t go for the lightweight, way too noisy.

Will option 1&2 both have improved throttle response compared to the OEM setups?

Any pros with going OEM vs these 2 kits? Thanks a lot for any input.

I helped a buddy of mine install the Southbend w/Cmak external slave conversion. I know the Quality is very good & installation went very smoothly

jchammond · 03-12-2019, 05:41 AM

Also car is Turbo’d...so it’s designed to handle more power

2011 Nismo#91 · 03-12-2019, 08:57 AM

You don't need anything special, but remember that anything you get aftermarket will be noisy compared to OEM. "Quiet" setups are not really quiet but rather noisy instead of loud & noisy.

OptionZero · 03-12-2019, 05:54 PM

While you're swapping the clutch/flywheel, get one of the slave cylinder replacements from Zspeed/Z1 motorsports. Its a failure point, might as well get it done

Patrickz34 · 03-13-2019, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRiZO

Seems like you're dailying it with bolt-ons, just go with an OEM clutch. Can't imagine you need a new flywheel at 110k.

Southbend is great too.

Clutch has nothing to do with throttle response. Flywheel weight can make an engine seem more responsive I guess.

Dunno why I said throttle response, meant to say Revving speed***
Throttle response was greatly improved after my Ecutek tune, HUGE difference

Patrickz34 · 03-13-2019, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

If your Z is only seeing street duty I would recommend installing the South Bend Stage 2 daily clutch and flywheel kit with quiet option. This clutch and flywheel will last longer than the Genuine Nissan OEM clutch and flywheel and it is more durable/stronger as well. Joe certainly knows his stuff and thank you again Joe for helping out the Z community! Install a Z Speed Performance CMAK Kit as soon as possible if you already have not before it’s too late and your Z ends up riding on the back of a flatbed tow truck lol. Also this is a great time to change your transmission fluid if you have not. Definitely install a brand new flywheel at your mileage.

The weird thing is, I've had my car since 50,000 miles and have not once had an issue with my CSC. It may be possible that the previous owner did the upgrade as it did come with a few mods when I purchased it, I'm now at 112,000 miles and have never had a problem with the CSC giving out..
Should probably get it checked out before dishing out money on a CSC elimination kit if I already have it. Is there any way to check without taking everything apart? Sebastian @ Specialty Z tried looking under the car but could not tell.

jchammond · 03-13-2019, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrickz34

The weird thing is, I've had my car since 50,000 miles and have not once had an issue with my CSC. It may be possible that the previous owner did the upgrade as it did come with a few mods when I purchased it, I'm now at 112,000 miles and have never had a problem with the CSC giving out..
Should probably get it checked out before dishing out money on a CSC elimination kit if I already have it. Is there any way to check without taking everything apart? Sebastian @ Specialty Z tried looking under the car but could not tell.

If Seb looked at it; you’ve taken it to the right place

Patrickz34 · 03-13-2019, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond

If Seb looked at it; you’ve taken it to the right place

Yeah Seb is the man, he did my tune as well

jchammond · 03-13-2019, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrickz34

Yeah Seb is the man, he did my tune as well

We installed the cmak as well w/clutch kit...puts slave cylinder external of transmission for easy service

jchammond · 03-13-2019, 05:30 AM

Oem is internal

jchammond · 03-13-2019, 05:34 AM

Also installed an RJM Clutch pedal (adjustable linkage) that’s the setup a lot of stick-Shift guy’s are going to

03-11-2019, 09:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Patrickz34 Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 222 Drives: 09' 370z Touring 6MT Rep Power: 11	Clutch/flywheel combo options, need help! Hey guys, I’m stuck between 2 different options of clutch+flywheel combos, I need to replace my oem setup as I’m @ 110k miles and they’re worn out beyond belief. Option 1 https://zspeed.com/product/south-ben...el-conversion/ W/ quiet option Option 2 https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...bo-p-5170.html W/ standard fulll face disc and midweight flywheel Note: I want something not super noisy for daily driving, hence why I didn’t go for the lightweight, way too noisy. Will option 1&2 both have improved throttle response compared to the OEM setups? Any pros with going OEM vs these 2 kits? Thanks a lot for any input. __________________ Motordyne E370, Berk HFC, Stillen G3, SPC Camber arms Ecutek Tune by Sebastian @ SpecialtyZ, Z1 34 Row Swift springs, Morimoto RGB Halos, Vordoven Forme 9

03-12-2019, 02:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Don't know? Ask Joe! https://zspeed.com/ Throttle response is better addressed with a tune Joe@ZSpeed and madwi like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-12-2019, 05:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684394	Also car is Turbo’d...so it’s designed to handle more power __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

03-12-2019, 08:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,400 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	You don't need anything special, but remember that anything you get aftermarket will be noisy compared to OEM. "Quiet" setups are not really quiet but rather noisy instead of loud & noisy. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

03-12-2019, 05:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	While you're swapping the clutch/flywheel, get one of the slave cylinder replacements from Zspeed/Z1 motorsports. Its a failure point, might as well get it done __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

03-12-2019, 12:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20698	Seems like you're dailying it with bolt-ons, just go with an OEM clutch. Can't imagine you need a new flywheel at 110k. Southbend is great too. Clutch has nothing to do with throttle response. Flywheel weight can make an engine seem more responsive I guess.

03-12-2019, 02:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25463	If your Z is only seeing street duty I would recommend installing the South Bend Stage 2 daily clutch and flywheel kit with quiet option. This clutch and flywheel will last longer than the Genuine Nissan OEM clutch and flywheel and it is more durable/stronger as well. Joe certainly knows his stuff and thank you again Joe for helping out the Z community! Install a Z Speed Performance CMAK Kit as soon as possible if you already have not before it’s too late and your Z ends up riding on the back of a flatbed tow truck lol. Also this is a great time to change your transmission fluid if you have not. Definitely install a brand new flywheel at your mileage.

03-13-2019, 05:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684394	Also installed an RJM Clutch pedal (adjustable linkage) that’s the setup a lot of stick-Shift guy’s are going to __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

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