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Quicksilvers 07-29-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xsamis (Post 3774677)
So my thing is i dont no any good shops that deal specifically with my engine, i have a shop that does good work and i take all my cars to him so i trust him, but he specializes in dodges, all he does is dodge, i was thinking of taking it to dynosty in Kentucky but thats a 6 hour drive, and im scared to drive a car with rod knock that far, i was thinking of putting a Z1 built lower end on the car and hoping it would fix the issue, i drained the oil and found only 1 quart of oil in the car, so im scard if i pay 3000 for a built lower, my upper block is messed up, thats were im lost, do i take it 6 hours away to dynosty or to my shop down the road? And if soemthing needed to be replace i was trying to put better internals, bearing etc etc, lower wise, but i dont no if i would have to have the shop tear it down completely just to replace something like that, or if i would have to replace a whole set not just one peice with aftermarket parts that can hold more power, thank you guys for ur response im totally lost and miss my z );

In my experience if you are going to choose a shop to bring your vehicle to they need to have experience or specialize in the VQ37HR engine as it is a complexed engine that requires knowledge. Your missing motor oil or coolant went somewhere it would be a good idea to get a leak down test and compression test to find out the health of your engine or begin tear down and replace your engine it is your choice and your diagnosis should determine this. In my experience I have used Royal Purple motor oil in a 4.6L 2V V8 engine and at 99k miles it had three internal rod bearings fail. After doing my oil research I found that Royal Purple is a snake oil and from the oil analysis tests I read the four ball bearing test and metal shearing test was high on wear which led me to believe the lubrication properties in Royal Purple motor is thin and does not protect your engine well at all comparing to other motor oil brands on the market. My decision was to never use Royal Purple motor oil in any of my engines again as I found there are other motor oil brands that will protect your internal engine parts a lot better. Also not changing your motor oil and filter on time can be detrimental to your engine. If you search there are reputable engine builders out there. In my experience MA Motorsports and Import Part Pros are excellent choices as they both have experience with the VQ37HR engine.

xsamis 07-29-2018 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3774702)
If you need a new built engine go to IPP. They’re built to order so you are going to wait a few months.

And not to be an *** but if you heard knocking and couldn’t barely get it to start, why the hell did you drive it home, especially at 65 on the freeway.

I had to get it home that night, there was literly no other option, also the knocking occured randomly, it wasnt a build up of any sort, the car was fine the entire day untill i was about .5 miles away from my house, also wer is IPP located?

xsamis 07-29-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3774774)
Was this a salvage title car? What problems did it have before this incident?

It was salvaged befor but i replaced everything that needed to be replaced, i dont think i replaced the radiator, but it wasnt leaking to my knowledge befor hand

xsamis 07-29-2018 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3774782)
In my experience if you are going to choose a shop to bring your vehicle to they need to have experience or specialize in the VQ37HR engine as it is a complexed engine that requires knowledge. Your missing motor oil or coolant went somewhere it would be a good idea to get a leak down test and compression test to find out the health of your engine or begin tear down and replace your engine it is your choice and your diagnosis should determine this. In my experience I have used Royal Purple motor oil in a 4.6L 2V V8 engine and at 99k miles it had three internal rod bearings fail. After doing my oil research I found that Royal Purple is a snake oil and from the oil analysis tests I read the four ball bearing test and metal shearing test was high on wear which led me to believe the lubrication properties in Royal Purple motor is thin and does not protect your engine well at all comparing to other motor oil brands on the market. My decision was to never use Royal Purple motor oil in any of my engines again as I found there are other motor oil brands that will protect your internal engine parts a lot better. Also not changing your motor oil and filter on time can be detrimental to your engine. If you search there are reputable engine builders out there. In my experience MA Motorsports and Import Part Pros are excellent choices as they both have experience with the VQ37HR engine.

This is good information to know because this is the first time ive used royal purple in ANY car, and this is the first time ANY of my cars have died like that... Redline it is next time, my only thing is i live in MI, and the onyl thing remotely close to me is 6 hours away... So if i went with import parts pro or MA motorsports i would literly pay probably thousands just to ship the engine there and back lol

xsamis 07-30-2018 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3774782)
In my experience if you are going to choose a shop to bring your vehicle to they need to have experience or specialize in the VQ37HR engine as it is a complexed engine that requires knowledge. Your missing motor oil or coolant went somewhere it would be a good idea to get a leak down test and compression test to find out the health of your engine or begin tear down and replace your engine it is your choice and your diagnosis should determine this. In my experience I have used Royal Purple motor oil in a 4.6L 2V V8 engine and at 99k miles it had three internal rod bearings fail. After doing my oil research I found that Royal Purple is a snake oil and from the oil analysis tests I read the four ball bearing test and metal shearing test was high on wear which led me to believe the lubrication properties in Royal Purple motor is thin and does not protect your engine well at all comparing to other motor oil brands on the market. My decision was to never use Royal Purple motor oil in any of my engines again as I found there are other motor oil brands that will protect your internal engine parts a lot better. Also not changing your motor oil and filter on time can be detrimental to your engine. If you search there are reputable engine builders out there. In my experience MA Motorsports and Import Part Pros are excellent choices as they both have experience with the VQ37HR engine.

Also lets say i buy a used engine for the time being, and send mine out in the future or slowly start building the one i have, do i have to have a certain vin number letter for a used engine? I guess my question is, is an engine from a g37/ q40/q50 the same engine as my Z's, i dont want anything underpowered lol and dont want inertchangability issues, a friend of mine told me it goes by the 4th letter of my vin

SouthArk370Z 07-30-2018 02:01 AM

The 4th character in a Nissan VIN indicates the engine type. It will be the same for all 370Zs (whatever the code is for VQ37HR). Maybe someone else can tell if a G37, etc VQ37HR is the as a 370Z VQ37HR.

Quicksilvers 07-30-2018 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by xsamis (Post 3774817)
This is good information to know because this is the first time ive used royal purple in ANY car, and this is the first time ANY of my cars have died like that... Redline it is next time, my only thing is i live in MI, and the onyl thing remotely close to me is 6 hours away... So if i went with import parts pro or MA motorsports i would literly pay probably thousands just to ship the engine there and back lol

True the fourth character in the Nissan VIN# does indicate the engine type. All the 370Z VQ37HR engines are all interchangeable/universal. If you are going to choice to run synthetic motor oil I highly recommend Redline 5W30 or Motul 5W30.

jchammond 07-30-2018 04:09 AM

Side Note: Check your engine fluids weekly,,,I have a couple high mileage vehicles & even do it on the newer ones.
Actually have a notebook that I record mileage,oil changes...or any other repairs.
Just a simple weekly checklist can save you a potential headache!

xsamis 07-30-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3774827)
True the fourth character in the Nissan VIN# does indicate the engine type. All the 370Z VQ37HR engines are all interchangeable/universal. If you are going to choice to run synthetic motor oil I highly recommend Redline 5W30 or Motul 5W30.

So should i buy a used engine with the vin number ending in A for the 370z? I guess my question is, is the Z and G motor the exact same thing in terms of internals, power, how it fits, etc etc, because a G motor is literly half the price of a Z motor... Maybe im overthinking it

JARblue 07-30-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3774702)
If you need a new built engine go to IPP.

Are you sure? There are several guys with major issues that seem to be related to their IPP build :ugh:

jwick 07-30-2018 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3774865)
Are you sure? There are several guys with major issues that seem to be related to their IPP build :ugh:


Who are those people? You read more threads than I do but I haven’t heard any issues with IPP.

Quicksilvers 07-31-2018 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xsamis (Post 3774853)
So should i buy a used engine with the vin number ending in A for the 370z? I guess my question is, is the Z and G motor the exact same thing in terms of internals, power, how it fits, etc etc, because a G motor is literly half the price of a Z motor... Maybe im overthinking it

The VQ37HR engine in the 370Z and G37 is the same engine the only difference I know of I talked to a Nissan engineer before about the differences between the 370Z and G37 models and Nissan made the tuning parameters and values more aggressive in the 370Z and slightly more conservative tuning in the G37 other then that it is the same. Be careful purchasing a used engine as you want to purchase a used engine from a reputable source and know the last recorded mileage before the engine was removed from the vehicle and the possibility of determining the history behind the engine. Try to find a used engine with some what lower mileage would be recommended. Others I know and myself have purchased short blocks and long blocks from IPP with success. IPP has a lot of experience with the VQ37HR platform. There are also a lot of other vendors out there as well if you search.

madwi 07-31-2018 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3774990)
Who are those people? You read more threads than I do but I haven’t heard any issues with IPP.

Off the top of my head I think member ReflectingG0d(sp?) recently had his stage 4 motor pop during break in and they said to pound sand and wouldnt warranty it. Please take this with a grain of salt as I have no idea on the story behind it, just remember reading about it in a for sale thread of all places.

B&W_Evader 07-31-2018 09:18 AM

Late to the game but I vote LS SWAP :tup::tup:

You can have all the power you want and stay NA. I think the engine is smaller than the VQ too. Much more aftermarket parts available too.


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