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Printermeow 05-21-2018 07:14 PM

Catch Can N/A VQ37VHR Burning Oil/Smoke
 
Greetings and thank you everyone for reply!

I ran into a problem, I had open breathers for over a year but the smell of fuel became unbearable and I decided to go with recirculating (non vented) catch cans to "close the loop and make it factory like" and thus eliminate smell.

Setting up like in example photos from catch can manufacturer I get severe smoking from exhaust like a chimney with intake breathers connected from crankcase to intakes as in photo but without baffles. Also within seconds had about half cup full of oil in both of my catch cans.

https://d.radikal.ru/d09/1805/01/40a5e81d7c19.jpg
https://c.radikal.ru/c38/1805/d3/d1895edc5d62.jpg

Setting up with closed off intake and manifold breathers it doesn't smoke but I am very fearful of pushing the car because I have done something wrong with tubing from/to catch cans.

https://d.radikal.ru/d25/1805/f1/1b992a5be1cc.jpg

https://a.radikal.ru/a22/1805/53/9b823a2be8ee.jpg

https://b.radikal.ru/b18/1805/d2/0022b62b841e.jpg

Please help me out guys, thank you.

Rusty 05-22-2018 12:46 AM

I'm wondering if you have your hoses on the cans backwards. Or you got cheap azz cans that just suck. Where did you get the cans from?

jchammond 05-22-2018 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3758059)
I'm wondering if you have your hoses on the cans backwards. Or you got cheap azz cans that just suck. Where did you get the cans from?

This was to be next on my list & there are a variety of cans,videos & reviews.
Be sure & put new pcv valves in & you may have to remove upper plenum, to clean oily residue. Can is T’d in from pcv to plenum inlet (you appear to have it proper).
Inlet port from pcv should have an internal pipe,that goes down into some type of media (steel wool etc.) & outlet just gets clean vapors from near top of can.
Some have drain valves on bottom & some with screw on bottoms.....just be sure your pcv valves are good & you don’t just have nipples in grommets...or it will be sucking a lot up through system.

Quicksilvers 05-22-2018 04:19 AM

The last time I seen a smoke show like this from oil catch cans installed was from a 1998 Chevrolet Camaro SS LS1 and the owner failed to change his dirty PVC valves and also routed the lines wrong but he could remember to trim his mullet though. I am wondering what brand oil catch can did you install? Also double check your lines and make sure they are routed correctly. Install new PCV valves if you have not already. I see mostly people with forced induction Z’s running oil catch cans not people with naturally aspirated Z’s.

Elmo370z 05-22-2018 10:27 AM

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This is how I routed my lines. I plugged off the two ports coming off the manifold.

Printermeow 05-23-2018 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3758059)
I'm wondering if you have your hoses on the cans backwards. Or you got cheap azz cans that just suck. Where did you get the cans from?

Cans are genuine mishimoto and hoses are in the correct way as per many others installing same kind of cans. I removed them and reverted back to open filter from front crank case ports and there is no smoke and also no severe suction within the crankcase like in the picture attached, engine working the nipple is sucked in as in picture when I had cans installed

https://d.radikal.ru/d40/1805/4f/bc149ee93bf4.jpg

Cyber370 05-23-2018 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3758074)
I see mostly people with forced induction Z’s running oil catch cans not people with naturally aspirated Z’s.

:iagree:

Why the catch cans, OP? Was it smoking or where you burning oil prior to the catch can installation?

Quicksilvers 05-23-2018 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3758473)
:iagree:

Why the catch cans, OP? Was it smoking or where you burning oil prior to the catch can installation?

It was smoking the same situation as the OP.

sirnixalot 05-26-2018 12:54 PM

It looks like you've deleted the PCV valves as I see AN fittings on the valve cover. If that's the case all you are doing is pressurizing the crankcase (under boost). If that happens you end up forcing oil past the rings.

projectpanda 10-04-2018 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Printermeow (Post 3758471)
Cans are genuine mishimoto and hoses are in the correct way as per many others installing same kind of cans. I removed them and reverted back to open filter from front crank case ports and there is no smoke and also no severe suction within the crankcase like in the picture attached, engine working the nipple is sucked in as in picture when I had cans installed

https://d.radikal.ru/d40/1805/4f/bc149ee93bf4.jpg

I know this is an old thread but wanted to share my similar experience. The rear ports on the valve cover needs to be able to breathe, so DO NOT CAP. I made this mistake and after 60 miles of high rev driving, my oil pressure light came on and when I checked my dipstick, there was so much vacuum it pulled the stick back down
My setup that caused this was capping off the rear ports but kepted the pcv port stock. I didn’t have a filter to put over the rear port but I still left it open to breathe and it was fine afterwards.

I have since drilled into my intake to mimic the factory setup with an oil catch can on the pcv side.

Jonathan-NEX 11-12-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by projectpanda (Post 3790040)
I know this is an old thread but wanted to share my similar experience. The rear ports on the valve cover needs to be able to breathe, so DO NOT CAP. I made this mistake and after 60 miles of high rev driving, my oil pressure light came on and when I checked my dipstick, there was so much vacuum it pulled the stick back down
My setup that caused this was capping off the rear ports but kept the pcv port stock. I didn’t have a filter to put over the rear port but I still left it open to breathe and it was fine afterwards.

I have since drilled into my intake to mimic the factory setup with an oil catch can on the PCV side.

Hey I know this is an old post, but I am having the same issue with my set up. i installed the catch can the same way you did, and I forgot to open the backside valve covers causing pressure to build up and the same thing would happen when I would open the oil dipstick. I proceeded to add hoses with little filter breathers attached at the end, and that got rid of the oil pressure problem, but then I received a code P0171, running lean on bank 1, what do you think I may be doing wrong?

Here are pictures of my current set up

ByThaBay 11-12-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan-NEX (Post 4013322)
Hey I know this is an old post, but I am having the same issue with my set up. i installed the catch can the same way you did, and I forgot to open the backside valve covers causing pressure to build up and the same thing would happen when I would open the oil dipstick. I proceeded to add hoses with little filter breathers attached at the end, and that got rid of the oil pressure problem, but then I received a code P0171, running lean on bank 1, what do you think I may be doing wrong?

Here are pictures of my current set up

You're pulling in unmetered air through the breathers. Your fresh air intake has to be taken AFTER the maf sensor meters the air. If you take in air from a breather, that's "unmetered" air going directly into the manifold.

breather -> valve cover -> pcv valve -> intake manifold = vacuum leak

Jonathan-NEX 11-12-2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay (Post 4013325)
You're pulling in unmetered air through the breathers. Your fresh air intake has to be taken AFTER the maf sensor meters the air. If you take in air from a breather, that's "unmetered" air going directly into the manifold.

breather -> valve cover -> pcv valve -> intake manifold = vacuum leak

How can I fix that problem, and thank you for replying!

ByThaBay 11-12-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan-NEX (Post 4013339)
How can I fix that problem, and thank you for replying!

Get rid of the breathers and connect the hose to an air source after the maf but before any forced induction or throttle.

Jonathan-NEX 11-12-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay (Post 4013340)
Get rid of the breathers and connect the hose to an air source after the maf but before any forced induction or throttle.

Since my intakes do not include the hole to connect the valve cover to, where should I get the air source from?


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