Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Engine & Drivetrain (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/)
-   -   Radiator Flush now no heater is spotty (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/126077-radiator-flush-now-no-heater-spotty.html)

homelessgdog 03-04-2018 02:46 PM

Radiator Flush now no heater is spotty
 
Had the radiator flushed and new tstat by the stealership. Car is 6 years 4 months old with 65K miles.
Did not have any problems with overheating or heater functions or anything. Just preventative. Car takes a long time to reach operating temp and the heater works only when you are driving. When you stop, cold air comes out. WTF
Please help.
Thanks.

Array 03-04-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homelessgdog (Post 3735565)
Had the radiator flushed and new tstat by the stealership. Car is 6 years 4 months old with 65K miles.
Did not have any problems with overheating or heater functions or anything. Just preventative. Car takes a long time to reach operating temp and the heater works only when you are driving. When you stop, cold air comes out. WTF
Please help.
Thanks.

So after the dealership you experience these issues?

Air in the system is the first thing id check, of course if my above statement is correct then the dealership should warranty there own work and check on this issue if you present it to them

homelessgdog 03-04-2018 03:30 PM

Yes sir after the repair/service.
Is it safe to drive? NO chance of overheating or just keep an eye on it?
Thanks for the help.

jchammond 03-04-2018 04:01 PM

They may have either used wrong temperature thermostat,put it in upside down or either left it out.
Air in system usually causes an overheat symptom-but unsure on these engines.
Make sure coolant is full in reservoir & demand one of their certified technicians re-work the job...yes it’s safe to drive.
Take back ASAP; as this condition is most likely going to throw a CEL as well.

Jinxx 03-04-2018 04:32 PM

Sounds like a faulty thermostat ...stuck open ...I would take back and have them correct the issue.

jchammond 03-04-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3735587)
Sounds like a faulty thermostat ...stuck open ...I would take back and have them correct the issue.

Yep,,,that as well.
Here in good ol’ SC... I know of a few dealerships who don’t always use oem parts.
Just something to think about.

Quicksilvers 03-04-2018 08:36 PM

+1 Sounds like your thermostat is not opening. I would ask this Nissan dealership service department what brand parts they are using on your car? I would only use Nissan OEM parts on your 370Z.

Array 03-05-2018 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homelessgdog (Post 3735573)
Yes sir after the repair/service.
Is it safe to drive? NO chance of overheating or just keep an eye on it?
Thanks for the help.

Looks like you have a few answers, regardless.. Take it back and ask for them to check it over

mults 03-05-2018 01:30 PM

To me, it sounds like air in the system. Even if the thermostat is stuck open, the coolant should still be warm-ish. If there is heat when driving and none when you stop, there is not enough coolant to reach the heater core.

My $.02...but either way, take it back and get them to fix it...Let us know what they find.

Jinxx 03-05-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mults (Post 3735910)
To me, it sounds like air in the system. Even if the thermostat is stuck open, the coolant should still be warm-ish. If there is heat when driving and none when you stop, there is not enough coolant to reach the heater core.

My $.02...but either way, take it back and get them to fix it...Let us know what they find.

Most of the time air in the system will run hot ....

SouthArk370Z 03-05-2018 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mults (Post 3735910)
To me, it sounds like air in the system. ... If there is heat when driving and none when you stop, there is not enough coolant to reach the heater core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3735920)
Most of the time air in the system will run hot ....

The engine will usually run hot but flow to the heater core can be blocked by air pockets, especially when the water pump is at low speed. The coolant in the core cools off quickly when flow is lost.

Rusty 03-05-2018 09:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3735666)
+1 Sounds like your thermostat is not opening. I would ask this Nissan dealership service department what brand parts they are using on your car? I would only use Nissan OEM parts on your 370Z.

If the thermostat will not open. The car overheats. He doesn't have that problem. Most likely there is air in the system that needs burped out. The thermostat can not be installed backwards. It's apart of the housing.

homelessgdog 03-05-2018 10:08 PM

Push back from stealership
 
Thanks gents for the responses. The vehicle is not overheating thank god. However, I do believe after looking through many post that there might be air in the system.
I didn't know there was such a thing from just replacing coolant!
I spoke with the service manager today. I got a little push back from him. The turd.
It is my wife's vehicle. I don't want to stereotype but she didn't really notice the issue because she has not had to use the heater. Just recently the temps dropped and she has turned on her heater. It has been 6 weeks since the service. I drove the car this weekend and she is correct the air temps is significantly cooler when the vehicle is at idle. I was like WTF?
Anyway, I might take it somewhere else. The service manager was a complete douche. And I'd rather not have his people jack up something else on the car. It has been amazing and incredibly reliable for my wife who has always dreamed of owning a Z. I will keep you posted. Thanks again.

kevinpantz 03-06-2018 12:11 AM

I had a similar experience in my S2000 before. What I noticed would happen though is when I turned the heater on, it would blow cold air for about 5-10 minutes, then finally get warm but also cause the engine temp to skyrocket at the same time.

The issue was resolved by burping the radiator to release air bubbles and adding more coolant as necessary during the process (turns out I didn't put enough in while flushing it in summer). Even at the dealership it's humans who can make mistakes. Hope that helps.

AARONHL 03-06-2018 12:53 PM

Yea you have air in the system, should be very easy to bleed, might need to add more coolant. The nissan systems can be a pain sometime, I know it was on my g35

Jsolo 03-06-2018 03:52 PM

I don't think air in the system is the issue. Dealers don't mess around with bleeding funnels and wasting time idling the car until the thermostat opens. They use a special tool to vacuum fill the system leaving no air pockets, same as the factory.

https://www.uview.com/index.cfm?dsp=...productid=5120

No issues with heat after I did the flush/fill on my car using this tool. Refilling it took all of a few minutes.

More than likely the thermostat is stuck open.

nis350 03-06-2018 11:06 PM

:iagree:

the car would likely to run hot or even overheat with air in the system.

stuck open thermostat is likely the cause....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3736270)
I don't think air in the system is the issue.

No issues with heat after I did the flush/fill on my car using this tool. Refilling it took all of a few minutes.

More than likely the thermostat is stuck open.


Fountainhead 03-12-2018 12:09 PM

Hi OP,
I recently bled my green coolant and replaced with Blue. I followed an Infiniti G37 video a mechanic (made in his garage) and had no problems whatsoever. After all was said and done I filled my reservoir at the full line and it emptied a small amount into the system after the change. I did nothing special, just a normal drain and replace. There are two screws to remove on the radiator endbells to allow each side to push out the air. I bought new O-Rings for these plastic screws and no issues at all since.
Sorry to hear you're having issues, and I hope you get it sorted out quickly.

Jhill 03-12-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3736270)
I don't think air in the system is the issue. Dealers don't mess around with bleeding funnels and wasting time idling the car until the thermostat opens. They use a special tool to vacuum fill the system leaving no air pockets, same as the factory.

https://www.uview.com/index.cfm?dsp=...productid=5120

No issues with heat after I did the flush/fill on my car using this tool. Refilling it took all of a few minutes.

More than likely the thermostat is stuck open.

You would be surprised how few techs actually own vacuum bleeders. At Acura zero techs owned one. They are more common in domestic and euro but even then at my last dealer that was domestic (before I finally got out 2 years ago) out of somewhere between 35-42 techs depending on how many were quitting vs new hires only about 5 of us owned a vacuum filler. Most don’t even own a coolant system pressure test kit. Dealers today mostly hire at low wage at flat rate and those tools aren’t cheap. We had a corvette come back 3 times for overheating after a service because they didn’t use a vacuum filler and air got trapped in the crossover piping before it finally got sent over to us drivability guys to fix it.

Rusty 03-12-2018 05:07 PM

Most techs are trying to get bye with the bare minimum. Can't afford most of the specialty tools. I been in that boat and it was sinking.

Jsolo 03-12-2018 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3738098)
You would be surprised how few techs actually own vacuum bleeders. At Acura zero techs owned one. They are more common in domestic and euro but even then at my last dealer that was domestic (before I finally got out 2 years ago) out of somewhere between 35-42 techs depending on how many were quitting vs new hires only about 5 of us owned a vacuum filler. Most don’t even own a coolant system pressure test kit. Dealers today mostly hire at low wage at flat rate and those tools aren’t cheap. We had a corvette come back 3 times for overheating after a service because they didn’t use a vacuum filler and air got trapped in the crossover piping before it finally got sent over to us drivability guys to fix it.

I hear you. I got the tool because a dealer drain/refill is at least $150+. It's paid for itself already after servicing two cars. Can't put a price tag on time/hassle saved by not having to deal with bleed screws or worry about car over heating. I suppose from a tech perspective, if customer is getting billed per hour then the funnel makes more sense.

Jhill 03-13-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3738217)
I hear you. I got the tool because a dealer drain/refill is at least $150+. It's paid for itself already after servicing two cars. Can't put a price tag on time/hassle saved by not having to deal with bleed screws or worry about car over heating. I suppose from a tech perspective, if customer is getting billed per hour then the funnel makes more sense.

No the vacuum filler makes the most sense because techs get paid flat rate so if they go over the time charges they are working for free, also if it comes back then it is getting looked at again for free. So doing it once and doing it right is very important for a tech (why I personally have one). It's just that techs do not make much money and that mixed with the large amount of warranty work (which pays even less time than you could believe) you're almost guaranteed to be working for free at least a few hours a day sometimes, on a big job your entire week may be a loss. Also a lot of cars now have included services which pay the tech a lot less time, it used to be you made your time back on that type of work to offset the warranty garbage but now that's gone and the warranty garbage is still there. Also that won't be the only tool the tech needs, they will have an open account with Mac, Snap on and Matco and have a decent amount of debt to them. As Rusty said most techs are just barely trying to get by and if they have been in it for a little while they are not looking to invest more in a field going nowhere and are looking to save as much and trying to get out.

Rusty 03-13-2018 06:17 PM

When I was a tech (mechanic in my day) in the early '80's. We had a saying. I own my soul for $80.00 a week for life to the Snap-On guy.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2