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Rusty 02-19-2018 11:10 PM

Valve float video
 
For those who don't know about valve float. Here's a slo-mo video of it. :tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/_REQ1PUM0rY

Jhill 02-23-2018 12:12 AM

That’s a pretty cool video. Makes me think someone needs to come up with valve spring shock absorbers to dampen the spring occultations. Not sure how one could do it but would be interesting.

BGTV8 02-23-2018 12:31 AM

Dampers exist but I don;t have a picture and verbalizing the description is well past me as we had a great lunch and are now into the 3rd bottle of red .......... on Friday afternoon kickback time

Rusty 02-23-2018 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3732845)
That’s a pretty cool video. Makes me think someone needs to come up with valve spring shock absorbers to dampen the spring occultations. Not sure how one could do it but would be interesting.

It's been a while since I've played with valve springs. And the technology is changing.
Short answer. They do. A triple valve spring. The middle spring is called a damper spring. It's flat wound spring that goes between the 2 other springs. It raises the rpm at which float happens. It's suppose to help with vibrations in the springs.

Jhill 02-23-2018 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3732847)
It's been a while since I've played with valve springs. And the technology is changing.
Short answer. They do. A triple valve spring. The middle spring is called a damper spring. It's flat wound spring that goes between the 2 other springs. It raises the rpm at which float happens. It's suppose to help with vibrations in the springs.

I’m aware of 2 and 3 spring valve springs to all have a different natural frequency etc but some type of real damper system would be interesting and maybe allow less tension for reduced drag and less valve stem stretch etc.

I imagine the z is a two spring setup? I would be really surprised if it’s single spring running 7500 rpm

Rusty 02-23-2018 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3732850)
I’m aware of 2 and 3 spring valve springs to all have a different natural frequency etc but some type of real damper system would be interesting and maybe allow less tension for reduced drag and less valve stem stretch etc.

I imagine the z is a two spring setup? I would be really surprised if it’s single spring running 7500 rpm

Believe the beehive spring can run those rpms. How above that. I don't know. F1 and MotoGp used to run air springs at 20,000+ rpms.

jrb55gh 02-27-2018 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3732846)
Dampers exist but I don;t have a picture and verbalizing the description is well past me as we had a great lunch and are now into the 3rd bottle of red .......... on Friday afternoon kickback time

Life is good in Australia!

BGTV8 02-27-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jrb55gh (Post 3734024)
Life is good in Australia!

Gotta be over 65 to join this club ....

Rusty 02-27-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3734141)
Gotta be over 65 to join this club ....

Almost there. :icon14:


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