CSC Failure Symptoms?

40 to 332 · 11-15-2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Your whole system - CMC, lines, CSC - has bad fluid in it and it needs to be completely flushed/replaced. Just topping off the CMC will be, at best, a temporary band-aid.

In addition to being less effective as a hydraulic fluid, your fluid contains "dirt" that will erode seals in the CMC and CSC.

JARblue · 11-16-2017, 08:28 AM

First thing I'd do is pull the steering lock fuse like people are recommending. Second thing I'd do is call up Nissan Corporate and make them refund the steering lock costs. There is a recall that should have covered 100% of your costs. If your vehicle is not listed under the recall, be an a$$ about it and tell them they should reimburse you anyway.

You want to bleed the clutch first to clear out any contaminants in the fluid (they aid in causing slave failure).

anguyen4 · 11-16-2017, 09:22 AM

I did call corporate but they said the previous owner already had the steering lock unit replaced in 2013 and that they would not give me a refund. They said my VIN was not covered under the voluntary service bulletin...

I plan to change/bleed the clutch fluid this weekend.

In the event that my CSC/CMC fails and leaves me stranded on the road, what should I do? Have it towed to the dealership and have them store it until I can get an aftermarket CSC shipped in? I really don’t want to take it to them again but I don’t want to take it to any random repair shop to do the work.

Chuck33079 · 11-16-2017, 09:43 AM

Well, there are plenty of small shops that can do the job. If it's not under warranty, I'd never let the dealer see the car again. Go to your local sub forum here and ask for independent shop recommendations.

Joey370Z · 11-23-2017, 01:56 PM

What kind of adjustments over time does the z1 kit need? Because I was thinking about getting that when my csc fails. I would get the misweifht flywheel full face clutch and csc elimination kit. But I don’t know what I would need to do over time as you mentioned and how much of a pain it would be?

JARblue · 11-23-2017, 07:49 PM

A jack, jack stands, and a couple of wrenches are all you need to adjust the Z1 kit. I typically do any adjustments while the car is already in the air (e.g. oil change). I plan to switch over to the ZSpeed CMAK when I change the clutch here soon.

anguyen4 · 11-23-2017, 11:33 PM

I changed the clutch fluid with Motul 600 and the clutch seems to be back to "normal" now. Thanks everyone

King · 11-24-2017, 01:37 AM

My CSC failed at 22k mi it was 100% covered by warranty.
it definitely was feeling soft for a few weeks before it failed, and there were a couple times I felt like when the pedal was released the clutch itself hadn't engaged or was slipping.

I will discourage you from replacing only the master cylinder as has been recommended in this thread, if there is a bad part in your system any dirt showing up in your system because of it, will just ruin the master cylinder again. You will find the advice quite often here, if you replace the CSC replace the master too. I was really suprised that even the dealer insisted on replacing both, when I expected to have to convince them to do the extra work.

11-16-2017, 08:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	First thing I'd do is pull the steering lock fuse like people are recommending. Second thing I'd do is call up Nissan Corporate and make them refund the steering lock costs. There is a recall that should have covered 100% of your costs. If your vehicle is not listed under the recall, be an a$$ about it and tell them they should reimburse you anyway. You want to bleed the clutch first to clear out any contaminants in the fluid (they aid in causing slave failure). __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

11-16-2017, 09:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Well, there are plenty of small shops that can do the job. If it's not under warranty, I'd never let the dealer see the car again. Go to your local sub forum here and ask for independent shop recommendations. eastwest2300 and BobbyLight like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-23-2017, 01:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Joey370Z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2010 370Z 40th ANNIV Rep Power: 9	What kind of adjustments over time does the z1 kit need? Because I was thinking about getting that when my csc fails. I would get the misweifht flywheel full face clutch and csc elimination kit. But I don’t know what I would need to do over time as you mentioned and how much of a pain it would be? __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 6MT \| Motordyne shockwave catback \| Motordyne ART test pipes \| Stillen Gen 3's

11-23-2017, 07:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	A jack, jack stands, and a couple of wrenches are all you need to adjust the Z1 kit. I typically do any adjustments while the car is already in the air (e.g. oil change). I plan to switch over to the ZSpeed CMAK when I change the clutch here soon. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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11-16-2017, 09:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
anguyen4 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 7 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 8	I did call corporate but they said the previous owner already had the steering lock unit replaced in 2013 and that they would not give me a refund. They said my VIN was not covered under the voluntary service bulletin... I plan to change/bleed the clutch fluid this weekend. In the event that my CSC/CMC fails and leaves me stranded on the road, what should I do? Have it towed to the dealership and have them store it until I can get an aftermarket CSC shipped in? I really don’t want to take it to them again but I don’t want to take it to any random repair shop to do the work.

11-23-2017, 11:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
anguyen4 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 7 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 8	I changed the clutch fluid with Motul 600 and the clutch seems to be back to "normal" now. Thanks everyone

11-24-2017, 01:37 AM	#23 (permalink)
King Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: NorCal Posts: 86 Drives: 2015 370Z Pearl Rep Power: 9	My CSC failed at 22k mi it was 100% covered by warranty. it definitely was feeling soft for a few weeks before it failed, and there were a couple times I felt like when the pedal was released the clutch itself hadn't engaged or was slipping. I will discourage you from replacing only the master cylinder as has been recommended in this thread, if there is a bad part in your system any dirt showing up in your system because of it, will just ruin the master cylinder again. You will find the advice quite often here, if you replace the CSC replace the master too. I was really suprised that even the dealer insisted on replacing both, when I expected to have to convince them to do the extra work.