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MightyBobo 12-18-2009 03:35 PM

Oil Analysis #2
 
This was right before my HPDE. I should have a sample (assuming my body shop didnt **** up) of right AFTER the HPDE, also, as soon as I get the car back.

I think this is SOLID proof, that an early oil change around ~1K miles is a good idea :)

http://images52.fotki.com/v639/photo...Report2-vi.jpg

370Zsteve 12-18-2009 03:44 PM

Thanks, man. This confirms my decision to change my oil at 1000-1200 miles!

I'd +1 you but I'm all repped-out for the day :shakes head:

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 330749)
Thanks, man. This confirms my decision to change my oil at 1000-1200 miles!

I'd +1 you but I'm all repped-out for the day :shakes head:

My pleasure. I'd love to take it back to my dealership and show it to the douches who kept saying its pointless to use my free oil change with them so early in the motors life...

370Zsteve 12-18-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330769)
My pleasure. I'd love to take it back to my dealership and show it to the douches who kept saying its pointless to use my free oil change with them so early in the motors life...

Do it! :stirthepot:

spearfish25 12-18-2009 03:54 PM

Guys, have you ever heard of statistical versus practical significance? Even if there was a statistical difference between those values, you'd never be able to show that changing your oil based on those numbers was worth doing every 1000 miles. Don't waste your hard earned money every 1000 miles...there's no evidence that a little extra copper, iron, molybdenum, etc will change your engine's life.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 330784)
Guys, have you ever heard of statistical versus practical significance? Even if there was a statistical difference between those values, you'd never be able to show that changing your oil based on those numbers was worth doing every 1000 miles. Don't waste your hard earned money every 1000 miles...there's no evidence that a little extra copper, iron, molybdenum, etc will change your engine's life.

You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.

puckshaw 12-18-2009 04:20 PM

I changed my oil at 60 miles :p

Urbanracer 12-18-2009 04:38 PM

Yeah I did mine at 150 miles and again at 700.

rench 12-18-2009 04:55 PM

I changed mine at around 1200-1500 for first one... Now I'm glad I did. + rep for you...

Slynky 12-18-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330836)
You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.


I grew up learning that (and I'm REALLY old). The idea wasn't so much that the oil was breaking down or anything but that in the first (let's say) 500 - 1,000 miles is where you will gather the most fine particles of metal "dust", (etc.) as the engine breaks in and the metals smooth themselves into place. Dumping that oil gets rid of foreign minute particles floating around in it.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 04:58 PM

Precisely my feelings, Slynky. No matter how "clean" they get a freshly cast block, its still going to be "dirty", to a point. I think an early initial oil change helps greatly in getting a majority of that gunk out :)

370Zsteve 12-18-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330943)
Precisely my feelings, Slynky. No matter how "clean" they get a freshly cast block, its still going to be "dirty", to a point. I think an early initial oil change helps greatly in getting a majority of that gunk out :)

Not to mention the metal shaved from the cylinder wall as the rings seat. I was actually amazed at the color of my oil when I checked the dipstick at 250 miles. It wasn't dark, but it clearly had dark particles floating in it..in fact the dark matter was not mixing with the oil, it was almost like oil and water.

spearfish25 12-18-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330836)
You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.

Gotcha. Then I agree. I changed mine at 1000 mi too. Every 1000 thereafter sounded nuts :)

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 330985)
Gotcha. Then I agree. I changed mine at 1000 mi too. Every 1000 thereafter sounded nuts :)

Haha, it WOULD be nuts, especially using Redline repeatedly...*shudder*.

PapoZalsa 12-18-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rench (Post 330939)
I changed mine at around 1200-1500 for first one... Now I'm glad I did. + rep for you...

That's what I'm going to do.

JB1 12-18-2009 09:59 PM

Thanks MightyBobo. I knew I was doing the right thing when I had my first oil change at about 1000 miles.

kannibul 12-18-2009 10:02 PM

Dropped mine at 1255, if I remember correctly.

azn370z 12-18-2009 10:15 PM

Not sure if Honda still does this but they wanted the first oil change done after 3000 miles, to help break in the engine properly. That's what it said in my 2001 prelude manual. I will most likely do my first z oil change after 3k.

jpit 12-18-2009 10:31 PM

Some break-in oils have extra molybdenum to help with piston sealing and they want you to keep it in for at least 3000 miles.

Jason 12-18-2009 10:31 PM

I did my first oil change at 3738. I think even if I didn't have a lifetime warranty, I'd still do it around the same mileage. I doubt 2000 miles will make a difference..

PapoZalsa 12-18-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 331238)
Not sure if Honda still does this but they wanted the first oil change done after 3000 miles, to help break in the engine properly. That's what it said in my 2001 prelude manual. I will most likely do my first z oil change after 3k.

I think it was the same when I bought my 2001 Acura Integra GSR.

Will have to look at the maintenance section in the Owner's Manual for the Z.

LiquidZ 12-19-2009 12:03 PM

I changed mine a hair under 1k miles. Thanks for the report, Bobo.

MightyBobo 12-19-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 331959)
I changed mine a hair under 1k miles. Thanks for the report, Bobo.

My pleasure, of course.


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