Oil Analysis #2

MightyBobo · 12-18-2009, 04:35 PM

This was right before my HPDE. I should have a sample (assuming my body shop didnt **** up) of right AFTER the HPDE, also, as soon as I get the car back.

I think this is SOLID proof, that an early oil change around ~1K miles is a good idea

370Zsteve · 12-18-2009, 04:44 PM

Thanks, man. This confirms my decision to change my oil at 1000-1200 miles!

I'd +1 you but I'm all repped-out for the day

MightyBobo · 12-18-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Thanks, man. This confirms my decision to change my oil at 1000-1200 miles!

I'd +1 you but I'm all repped-out for the day

My pleasure. I'd love to take it back to my dealership and show it to the douches who kept saying its pointless to use my free oil change with them so early in the motors life...

370Zsteve · 12-18-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

My pleasure. I'd love to take it back to my dealership and show it to the douches who kept saying its pointless to use my free oil change with them so early in the motors life...

Do it!

spearfish25 · 12-18-2009, 04:54 PM

Guys, have you ever heard of statistical versus practical significance? Even if there was a statistical difference between those values, you'd never be able to show that changing your oil based on those numbers was worth doing every 1000 miles. Don't waste your hard earned money every 1000 miles...there's no evidence that a little extra copper, iron, molybdenum, etc will change your engine's life.

MightyBobo · 12-18-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Guys, have you ever heard of statistical versus practical significance? Even if there was a statistical difference between those values, you'd never be able to show that changing your oil based on those numbers was worth doing every 1000 miles. Don't waste your hard earned money every 1000 miles...there's no evidence that a little extra copper, iron, molybdenum, etc will change your engine's life.

You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.

puckshaw · 12-18-2009, 05:20 PM

I changed my oil at 60 miles

Urbanracer · 12-18-2009, 05:38 PM

Yeah I did mine at 150 miles and again at 700.

rench · 12-18-2009, 05:55 PM

I changed mine at around 1200-1500 for first one... Now I'm glad I did. + rep for you...

Slynky · 12-18-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.

I grew up learning that (and I'm REALLY old). The idea wasn't so much that the oil was breaking down or anything but that in the first (let's say) 500 - 1,000 miles is where you will gather the most fine particles of metal "dust", (etc.) as the engine breaks in and the metals smooth themselves into place. Dumping that oil gets rid of foreign minute particles floating around in it.

MightyBobo · 12-18-2009, 05:58 PM

Precisely my feelings, Slynky. No matter how "clean" they get a freshly cast block, its still going to be "dirty", to a point. I think an early initial oil change helps greatly in getting a majority of that gunk out

370Zsteve · 12-18-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Precisely my feelings, Slynky. No matter how "clean" they get a freshly cast block, its still going to be "dirty", to a point. I think an early initial oil change helps greatly in getting a majority of that gunk out

Not to mention the metal shaved from the cylinder wall as the rings seat. I was actually amazed at the color of my oil when I checked the dipstick at 250 miles. It wasn't dark, but it clearly had dark particles floating in it..in fact the dark matter was not mixing with the oil, it was almost like oil and water.

spearfish25 · 12-18-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You misunderstood....

I feel that changing your oil at the FIRST 1K miles should be done. Not waiting 4500 for the very first oil change.

For the normal driver, after the first 1K, I don't see why waiting 3-4K every change AFTER the first will be fine. My point was simply that doing the very first one should be done sooner than later.

Gotcha. Then I agree. I changed mine at 1000 mi too. Every 1000 thereafter sounded nuts

MightyBobo · 12-18-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Gotcha. Then I agree. I changed mine at 1000 mi too. Every 1000 thereafter sounded nuts

Haha, it WOULD be nuts, especially using Redline repeatedly...*shudder*.

PapoZalsa · 12-18-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rench

I changed mine at around 1200-1500 for first one... Now I'm glad I did. + rep for you...

That's what I'm going to do.

12-18-2009, 04:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	Oil Analysis #2 This was right before my HPDE. I should have a sample (assuming my body shop didnt **** up) of right AFTER the HPDE, also, as soon as I get the car back. I think this is SOLID proof, that an early oil change around ~1K miles is a good idea __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

12-18-2009, 04:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Thanks, man. This confirms my decision to change my oil at 1000-1200 miles! I'd +1 you but I'm all repped-out for the day __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

12-18-2009, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Guys, have you ever heard of statistical versus practical significance? Even if there was a statistical difference between those values, you'd never be able to show that changing your oil based on those numbers was worth doing every 1000 miles. Don't waste your hard earned money every 1000 miles...there's no evidence that a little extra copper, iron, molybdenum, etc will change your engine's life. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-18-2009, 05:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Urbanracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mid-west, USA Posts: 266 Drives: God's Chariot Rep Power: 16	Yeah I did mine at 150 miles and again at 700. __________________ 09 Nismo - HKS \| Berk \| HPS \| K&N \| Zspeed 09 Maxima \| 09 CBR 1000RR \| 02 CBR F4i

12-18-2009, 05:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	Precisely my feelings, Slynky. No matter how "clean" they get a freshly cast block, its still going to be "dirty", to a point. I think an early initial oil change helps greatly in getting a majority of that gunk out __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

12-18-2009, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
puckshaw Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 620 Drives: 09 PW 370Z Touring Rep Power: 17	I changed my oil at 60 miles

12-18-2009, 05:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
rench Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SW FL Posts: 43 Drives: 09 370Z BrSi 6mt Rep Power: 257	I changed mine at around 1200-1500 for first one... Now I'm glad I did. + rep for you...

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