'17 & csc
 

Should i be concerned with future CSC issues?

not sure if Nissan fixed the issue in recent years.

tried searching on here for relative posts but no avail.

Thanks

Slave is the same in all years, We have had a few people already in 16 models with failed slaves, In fact have one sitting out front right now getting out CMAK today. Assuming 17 is no different, Part# is the same.

yikes

probably should order a Zspeed or Z1 kit just to have on hand "just in case"


however... if this gets replaced,,,, what else should i get to partner with this upgrade? flywheel too? & what else??? might as well do it all in one shot....

I wouldn't order the kit while you still have warranty coverage and your CSC hasn't had any issues. However, once that coverage is gone, yeah, being ready to put in a permanent fix is not a bad idea.

since you are under warranty... if it did go out on you, I would provide them an Z1 HD-CSC and ask them to install that instead.

I personally wouldn't bother upgrading the clutch/flywheel unless you are planning to go to the track or planning to go turbo/super.

thank you for feedback.... i'm just hoping not ALL of the CSC's are bad and there are some out there that haven't had issues


would like to see an actual percentage out there of those who have been affected vs the non-affected

you guys on this forum got me stressing this CSC thing :(

TSB suggests replacing the clutch/brake fluid with the GTR brake fluid. Cost me 35 bucks for the fluid alone. But the clutch does feel a little tighter now.

Gtr fluid is just dot 4 fluid. It's not a magic bullet, it'll just kick the can down the road. Fluid can't fix the plastic seals inside the csc from coming apart.

This.

I originally was thinking I might order it ahead of time, but then some go 50-80k before needing one. Some need one at 20k.. I decided to just wait it out and see what happens, I'll order parts when I actually need them. No sense in something sitting on the shelf for 3-4 years just in case, especially since its not dirt cheap. Also I know typically these are parts that are in stock and I can get quickly.

Just FYI, do some reading. The Z1 kit requires adjustments. Several people were claiming they needed adjuatments every 1k-3k miles. The ZSpeed CMAK is supposed to be self adjusting.

In my case I decided to be proactive. I had mine replaced @28k miles with a ZSpeed CMAK and ZSpeed stock replacement clutch/flywheel. The "Z" is our daily driver for my wife since I travel frequently and park the SUV at the airport. I didn't want the CSC failing while she's driving to work and I'm away from home.

The CMAK has been flawless...

If it makes you feel better, I have a 2010 with stock CSC and it's running just fine. If you truly know how to properly drive a stick shift, I doubt you'll need a replacement.

So the people who have had them fail on test drives just don't know how to drive a stick?

I don't think it has anything to do with driver skill.

I'm almost certain CSC failures correlates to how you drive. I mean there are guys that replaced their CSC 3 times. But I do admit that stock CSC is total garbage.

Then show your work. There's plenty of people who have had them fail across all levels of driving skill. What proof do you have that it's in any way related to driver skill?

Agree

CSC failing due to driver skill..:rofl2:

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-failures.html

Read through that entire thread and tell me not a single one of them knows how to drive a MT Z properly

The fact that some CSC fail and some don't is the proof itself. Yes the CSC is sensitive but the fact that some are still working fine means something's done properly. The Z is actually a hard car to drive stick so I can understand why people have hard time with the clutch.

You tell me why mine is still working and I can guarantee you it's not matter of luck. I can also can guarantee you that I use the clutch more than anyone else in this entire forum because of my daily stop-and-go LA traffic. I press the clutch every 3-4 second for about 45 minutes straight on the I-405 freeway everyday.....and that's only 1 way. And guess what, my stock CSC is rock solid even after all the years of commute.

I guess the real question is "why hasn't my CSC failed yet?"

We live in a probabilistic world. In any high volume product the same course of actions and conditions will result in many different results.
Some are more robust than others.

There are also many more variables at play than drivers skill - driving conditions, how hard you drive, weather where you live, the list is literally endless.

Edit: I came off too harsh the first time. So I edited.

How is this ridiculous? I'm telling you my honest experience with the CSC. And it's a darn good one too. Yes there are more variables but it ultimately boils down to 2 things. The quality of the CSC and how you drive it. The fact that you're not even considering my legitimate and plausible experience is ridiculous.

I came off too aggressive and edited my post. Sorry about that.

What I am saying is that your experience is only one of thousands, to draw a concrete conclusion over completely subjective reasoning (essentially "I am a skilled driver") is, for lack of a better word, silly.

Again, sorry I came off so poorly before. Not trying to be "that guy."

I think anyone who owns a MT "Z" will at some point "drive it like you stole it"...

At that point you're playing Russian Roulette with the stock CSC.

Thus I went ahead and CMAK'd that sumbitch :-)

Apology accepted ;) And I also didn't mean to come out as "hey look, I'm a skilled driver and you're not" guy. If I offended anyone, I apologies. But I'm a firm believer that the way you drive has a direct correlation to the CSC failure. I also have no say about those who heavily modified their Z (TT, clutch, etc). I only have couple basic bolt-ons

that's good to know. How many miles do you have and how often you change the clutch fluid? Thx.

I drove my 12' Nismo to over 60k with the stock CSC. When I got the car the clutch fluid was completely destroyed at 19k miles. I had to change the fluid every other oil change to keep it clean until the last 10k miles. MY 13' Nismo I got with only 77xx miles on it. The fluid was already done on it. I only had to change it out every other oil change for 20k miles before the fluid started stay clean. I used Motul RBF 600 fluid in both cars. I did have an issue last year in winter with my 13', the pedal went soft coming out of my drive way in below freezing temps. I changed the fluid again and haven't had an issue since. Proper maintenance does help. That doesn't mean I don't have a brand new clutch/Flywheel/CSC sitting in a box at my house though. :)

I have close to 70,000 miles on my Z. I never changed my clutch fluid yet but I do maintain the optimal fluid level.