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SurfDog 06-07-2017 07:15 PM

...and of course the distributer cap.

Rusty 06-07-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3661781)
...and of course the distributer cap.

Don't forget the plug wires, points, condenser, and distributor rotor. Also don't forget to pull the vacuum line off the vacuum advance and plug it when you set the timing. :rofl2:


The younger guys probability don't know what we are talking about. :rofl2:

SurfDog 06-07-2017 07:36 PM

This motor is pretty cool. A lot of parts but very cool.

Jhill 06-07-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3661800)
This motor is pretty cool. A lot of parts but very cool.

Lots of parts to make a big shrapnel grenade?

Head gasket leak and oil leak all at low miles. Must really have bad luck, if this were a vw/Audi I would say normal.

I'm curious how z1 etc is going about rebuilding these blocks with boring and honing aluminum walls. I haven't kept up on my engine building but they usually have a hard coating for wear and if rings leak etc the manufacturer just replaces the piston and rings but no re honing is done (at dealer level). Curious.

BGTV8 06-08-2017 05:19 AM

I hesitate to use the phrase, but that is good news because you now have a definitive cause and can build to avoid it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3661758)
So I have the verdict on what killed the motor.

It was...........

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...de50f13a6d.jpg

Yup Suspect #2. The oil gallery gasket causing loss of pressure on the aft bearing.

Also found a pending fail of the head gasket

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a4f8b6c08a.jpg

The OEM oil pump was still hanging tough.

So there we have have it.


Ape Factory 06-08-2017 07:12 AM

I'm guessing there's a long and storied history with the oil galley gasket failing if EPS is actually making a gasket set to replace OEM. I was aware of the pre-2012 issues with the gasket that fails under rear timing cover but not this one. Many documented cases of the rear gasket failing on the G37 forum.

SurfDog 06-08-2017 08:31 AM

Well it's ugly when it happens and honestly I'm glad it happened at the track where I had a lot of ready help around. This could have gone on the freeway and I would have been screwed.

synolimit 06-09-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3661758)
So I have the verdict on what killed the motor.

It was...........

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...de50f13a6d.jpg

Yup Suspect #2. The oil gallery gasket causing loss of pressure on the aft bearing.

Also found a pending fail of the head gasket

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a4f8b6c08a.jpg

The OEM oil pump was still hanging tough.

So there we have have it.

Woo hoo I win the big prize of $0!

synolimit 06-09-2017 12:22 PM

Were the phillips heads hand tight? Eps told me that's an issue. They back out and the gasket blows out. They need safety wired!

SurfDog 06-09-2017 01:21 PM

I will.

Rusty 06-09-2017 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3662521)
Woo hoo I win the big prize of $0!

Winner-Winner-Chicken Dinner.:icon17:

SurfDog 06-14-2017 01:12 PM

Forensics
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...93a1e41d6a.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f718bb69a0.jpg
And here is the culprit
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e4ed6aca6d.jpg

Rusty 06-14-2017 02:24 PM

Shame a damn gasket will do that much damage. :shakes head:
Oil pump gear still in one piece.

The crank is still good. A little grinding on it will make it good as new. :icon14:

Some JB Weld to fill in the hole on the block. And it will be good for another couple of trackdays.

What you can do with the piston, rod, and pieces. Is to encase them in clear poly, and use it as a paper weight or bookend.

SurfDog 06-14-2017 08:22 PM

...and magazine table from the block
...and hat from my ported intake plenum
...and cheese grater from my oil cooler core.
...and fish bedding from my shrapnel


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