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BGTV8 06-04-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3660361)
I have the ATI dampener from MA Motorsports too.

If it was rod bearing failure. The rod bolts could have stretch enough the let the bearing spin. I've had this happened to me. It was hard to pin down because all the parts was new.

Good point .......... another reason to use ARP products

Jhill 06-05-2017 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by James10694 (Post 3660070)
It is not uncommon to blow an NA engine if it's being tracked. The main cause is fuel starvation. If you're tracking your Z frequently you need to either buy a road race pump or keep your fuel above 3/4 tank. It's happened before. Check out ban25s thread.

Interesting I didn't hear ban had an issue. I occasionally track but try to keep a full tank. What happenend here a lean mis under load in turn exit?

Jhill 06-05-2017 01:24 AM

Wait so the ATI damper now fits non dry sump? Last I checked they still didn't. Anyone with one comment on if it smooths the slight buzz in the feet at 6000-7500? I know they (nissan) did a lot of work in the new vq35de and it is smooth all the way to 6500.

Rusty 06-05-2017 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3660401)
Wait so the ATI damper now fits non dry sump? Last I checked they still didn't. Anyone with one comment on if it smooths the slight buzz in the feet at 6000-7500? I know they (nissan) did a lot of work in the new vq35de and it is smooth all the way to 6500.

Where the F you been? I've had my ATI dampener since 12/15. :eek:

Spooler 06-05-2017 06:33 AM

This does look like dry sump time. Once he get's his oil pump out we shall know more. I wonder what the gears look like in the oil pump and if this is the only rod bearing to have oiling issues.

Jhill 06-05-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3660403)
Where the F you been? I've had my ATI dampener since 12/15. :eek:

Ok I guess the note says dry sump only, call for oem application. Guess I need to call.

Any noticeable difference in engine smoothness at high rpm?

Rusty 06-05-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3660545)
Ok I guess the note says dry sump only, call for oem application. Guess I need to call.

Any noticeable difference in engine smoothness at high rpm?

Never really notice. So it must be doing something. :icon17:

MAMotorsports 06-05-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3660545)
Ok I guess the note says dry sump only, call for oem application. Guess I need to call.

Any noticeable difference in engine smoothness at high rpm?



410-593-7080


Shoot me a call, I have a few on the shelf. ATI will not have any in stock, and depending on who you get may not even realize this exists. We worked with them a few years ago to bring on to market that is compatible with stock.


-Daelen

MAMotorsports 06-05-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3660234)
Good info. I was researching and only saw dampers that work without a dipstick (dry sumped). I'll call ATI and get the real story.

I don't think harmonics blew my crank but at this point anything is possible.



Hey,


As a few others in this thread have mentioned, you will want to take that motor all the way down to nothing and get it all cleaned/inspected. New stock crank at the minimum, Bryant has a 3.7 or a 4.0 crank we use, but, depending on your budget that may not be in the cards.


Shoot me a PM or call me at 410-593-7080 would be more than happy to go over some options with you, and we do also have the ATI dampers in stock currently. There are a few engine options out there for you depending what all you need the car to do.


-Daelen

SurfDog 06-05-2017 03:36 PM

Stage 2 Short block on the way from Z1. Also a new oil cooler core and Nissan Motorsport steel gear oil pump. I'll be remachining my heads here in denver.

Here's some of the schrapnel found in the pan!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dfeb785dce.jpg

It should be a good strong motor once I'm done.

lj909 06-05-2017 03:41 PM

That's crazy!

Jayhovah 06-05-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3660580)
Here's some of the schrapnel found in the pan!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dfeb785dce.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/xhss9.jpg

Rusty 06-05-2017 04:17 PM

Looks like the stomach contents of your motor after it ate it's self. :icon14:

Spooler 06-05-2017 06:30 PM

What do the other bearings and rods look like? You need to get down to the root cause or you will have issues again.

phunk 06-05-2017 09:33 PM

I feel like a billet crank and a dry sump go hand in hand, and I wouldn't do one without the other. Both are so expensive individually... if the oil pump breaks and takes out a Bryant crank that is really depressing. If a stock crank breaks and goes through your Dailey Engineering pan and pump that is just as sad.

It would really be interesting to get oil pressure logging on a Z being used in track events with a factory style oil sump. It would just take one or two guys to log it for the rest of us all to use that data!!


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