P0420/p0430

[ANMVQ]

Hey Guys,

Just a question I have been seeing some KR in 4th gear at WOT about 4k(Cars pulling 4-6 Degs of timing). I thought I got some bad gas so I went and got about 3 gallons of CAM2 gas( 100 Sunoco Race gas) drove the car about 20-30 mins let it mix and did a couple 4th gear pulls and no light . About an hour later a got a P0420/P0430 cat below efficiency below threshold bank 1-2? I reset it, and this morning the car was back to puling timing in 4th WOT :/. thoughts, cat to exhaust gasket leak? Or do I have a sensor issue. I have had my exhaust set up for over a year and never seen a cat code.

[2011 Nismo#91]

I would doubt it s a sensor issue since both bank 1 and 2 are reporting the same issue. Wish I knew more about these things but, is it pulling timing because of the cat inefficiency or is the timing causing the inefficiency of the cats?

[Laomatik]

See attchment for FSM info. Hope it helps.

[apextc]

I want to resurrect this thread as I am having the same issue.

Situation: I am getting a P0420 / 0430 error code.

My car: 2009 Sport / MT/ 79K with ONLY bolt-ons which are Takeda Intake, Full Stillen Dual Exhaust System.

I got the car checked at a mechanic and in summary, it seems like its a step by step process to figure out the root cause, which is to TRY:

1- change 02 sensors
2- Buy a check engine light eliminator from BLOX racing
3- Take it to a trusted performance shop

Anyone in the Chicagoland area/Naperville help a brotha out?





What causes the P0420 code?

Damaged muffler or leaks in the muffler
Damaged exhaust manifold or leaks in the exhaust manifold
Damaged exhaust pipe or exhaust pipe leaks
A misfire in the engine
Oil contamination in catalytic converter
Faulty catalytic converter (most common)
Faulty engine coolant temperature sensor
Faulty front oxygen sensor
Faulty rear oxygen sensor
Damaged oxygen sensor wiring
Oxygen sensor wiring that is not properly connected
Damaged oxygen sensor connectors
A fuel injector that is leaking
Fuel pressure that is high
Use of the wrong kind of fuel (using leaded fuel instead of unleaded fuel)

[Wilson2608]

Originally Posted by apextc

I want to resurrect this thread as I am having the same issue.

Situation: I am getting a P0420 / 0430 error code.

My car: 2009 Sport / MT/ 79K with ONLY bolt-ons which are Takeda Intake, Full Stillen Dual Exhaust System.

I got the car checked at a mechanic and in summary, it seems like its a step by step process to figure out the root cause, which is to TRY:

1- change 02 sensors
2- Buy a check engine light eliminator from BLOX racing
3- Take it to a trusted performance shop

Anyone in the Chicagoland area/Naperville help a brotha out?





What causes the P0420 code?

Damaged muffler or leaks in the muffler
Damaged exhaust manifold or leaks in the exhaust manifold
Damaged exhaust pipe or exhaust pipe leaks
A misfire in the engine
Oil contamination in catalytic converter
Faulty catalytic converter (most common)
Faulty engine coolant temperature sensor
Faulty front oxygen sensor
Faulty rear oxygen sensor
Damaged oxygen sensor wiring
Oxygen sensor wiring that is not properly connected
Damaged oxygen sensor connectors
A fuel injector that is leaking
Fuel pressure that is high
Use of the wrong kind of fuel (using leaded fuel instead of unleaded fuel)

This is a cat code correct? Kinda odd since your still using stock cats. I'd either say a clogged cat or sensor. Before buying any "code elimination kit" I'd check for other solutions. If you want to eliminate the code forever get uprev as they can do it on that software + you get a tune.

[Ghost116]

If I'm not mistaken the latest update to uprev software take away the ability to delete cels... could be wrong though

[seymore4]

Originally Posted by Ghost116

If I'm not mistaken the latest update to uprev software take away the ability to delete cels... could be wrong though

You are correct. They got into trouble with the EPA and had to remove that feature

[Wilson2608]

Originally Posted by seymore4

You are correct. They got into trouble with the EPA and had to remove that feature

Oh wow that sucks! What are boosted people going to do to eliminate some of their cel? You can't really get around the cat code without the eliminator from uprev.

[SouthArk370Z]

Originally Posted by Wilson2608

Oh wow that sucks! What are boosted people going to do to eliminate some of their cel? You can't really get around the cat code without the eliminator from uprev.

Just thinking out loud here but if you can add your own routines to the Uprev software, it shouldn't be that difficult to do. When CEL is detected, check DTCs. If DTCs are on a list of nuisance DTCs, then clear CEL and DTCs.

[seymore4]

Originally Posted by Wilson2608

Oh wow that sucks! What are boosted people going to do to eliminate some of their cel? You can't really get around the cat code without the eliminator from uprev.

I would consult with your tuner.. there are some options

[Jhill]

Originally Posted by apextc

I want to resurrect this thread as I am having the same issue.

Situation: I am getting a P0420 / 0430 error code.

My car: 2009 Sport / MT/ 79K with ONLY bolt-ons which are Takeda Intake, Full Stillen Dual Exhaust System.

I got the car checked at a mechanic and in summary, it seems like its a step by step process to figure out the root cause, which is to TRY:

1- change 02 sensors
2- Buy a check engine light eliminator from BLOX racing
3- Take it to a trusted performance shop

Anyone in the Chicagoland area/Naperville help a brotha out?





What causes the P0420 code?

Damaged muffler or leaks in the muffler
Damaged exhaust manifold or leaks in the exhaust manifold
Damaged exhaust pipe or exhaust pipe leaks
A misfire in the engine
Oil contamination in catalytic converter
Faulty catalytic converter (most common)
Faulty engine coolant temperature sensor
Faulty front oxygen sensor
Faulty rear oxygen sensor
Damaged oxygen sensor wiring
Oxygen sensor wiring that is not properly connected
Damaged oxygen sensor connectors
A fuel injector that is leaking
Fuel pressure that is high
Use of the wrong kind of fuel (using leaded fuel instead of unleaded fuel)

I'm not sure if your asking what causes a p0420 as in what causes the code or what cause the cat to go bad causing the p0420. From my experience (12 years as a diag/ drivability tech with different car lines) a p0420 code is almost always a failed cat, I can't think of anytime it has not been, that's not the same case for a diesel but on a gas engine it's almost guaranteed (I say almost for the 1 out of 1 million it isn't).

Of your stuff above
Muffler- no as that is after the o2 sensor
Manifold crack- you will have lean code (even though it will actually be rich)
Exhaust leaks- again after the o2 so no
Misfire- obviously have misfire codes
Oil- never seen this even on oil burners and most likely would be damaging the cat so once again its bad cat
O2 wiring or conn- going to have o2 codes (inactivity)
Injector- rich code
Fuel press- rich code

I have really never seen a p0420 and it not be a cat (for gas engines), the manufactures basically test all other sensors first and veryify they are functioning correctly before they will run a cat test and throw a p0420.