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Hotrodz 06-22-2017 01:55 PM

I understand your dilemma on the steering rack but FI is going to give up their proprietary engineering to anyone. You can't stay on top if you give share everything. It's that they don't want to help you it's about their bottom line!

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husam2012 06-22-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3667317)
I understand your dilemma on the steering rack but FI is going to give up their proprietary engineering to anyone. You can't stay on top if you give share everything. It's that they don't want to help you it's about their bottom line!

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I totally understand and I appreciated that they even let me know that they use the angled shims on their kits.

Hopefully it won't take me long to figure out the angle. I already got all the dimensions and length needed for the spacer, with just the angle left to figure out.


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jwick 06-22-2017 02:01 PM

Yup. Wouldn't be good business sense.

Hotrodz 06-22-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by husam2012 (Post 3667318)
I totally understand and I appreciated that they even let me know that they use the angled shims on their kits.

Hopefully it won't take me long to figure out the angle. I already got all the dimensions and length needed for the spacer, with just the angle left to figure out.


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Right on...that is very cool!

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Jayhovah 06-22-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3667319)
Yup. Wouldn't be good business sense.

I am good with whichever direction they choose - as the IP belongs to them so they can do what they want.. I just prefer the CJM approach. Seems like any return fuel system you buy from almost any Z vendor includes some CJM parts.

Maybe if FI took the same approach, then a bunch of turbo kits would use their spacers (or ICs, or manifolds, or whatever)? I don't know if the idea would be applicable in this instance and is certainly not usable universally. Just saying - there is more than one successful approach out there and the alternative in this case brings the most good will and does not need carry as much risk of copycats since most copycats would rather just buy it from you than reverse engineer it. (Just speculating here, I am no business expert)

edit: This reminds me of an episode of those old Biker-Build-Off shows.. I remember one of the builders also sold all the parts he designed and coincidentally the guy he was competing with actually ordered a headlight from him for the show-build. He was like "Even if I lose... I still win."

phunk 06-22-2017 02:58 PM

Sometimes selling components can cause trouble.

Just as a made-up example, but one possible scenario: Perhaps their source on the spacers is slow or unreliable. They might only have a small amount of them available at the moment. If they had to push back a turbo kit sale because they sold off a set of $25 spacers... no good!

Jayhovah 06-22-2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3667347)
Sometimes selling components can cause trouble.

Just as a made-up example, but one possible scenario: Perhaps their source on the spacers is slow or unreliable. They might only have a small amount of them available at the moment. If they had to push back a turbo kit sale because they sold off a set of $25 spacers... no good!

Certainly... just wanted to point out that there are alternatives and since you are probably 1A/1B on everyone's list here along with FI, you made for a good example. =)

Im still waiting on that free S1.SE fuel system you sarcastically promised me somewhere. ITS DOCUMENTED! =)

Sorry husam, I'll stop shooting your thread off topic now.

husam2012 06-23-2017 08:44 PM

Yeah I totally understand their point of view. I certainly wouldn't give away the design of any of the adapters i worked so hard on to finish.

Anyways, some good and bad news.

The good news is I have been experimenting with angles and it looks like I figured out the exact angle needed to clear the bolt for the downpipe.

I also scheduled an uprev tune at a performance shop a couple hours away from me. I will probably rent a U-Haul to tow it there or something.

Bad news but not so bad is after removing the fuel pump, I figured out that I had to buy the CJM install kit for the aeromotive pump.

I thought that it wasn't necessary but it is. I will be ordering it tonight so hopefully I'll have it finished asap because it stinks now!


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TexasZ34 06-25-2017 09:04 PM

WOW this thread delivers!! Mad props for following though.

husam2012 06-25-2017 10:02 PM

GT-R turbos on the VQ37
 
Just doing a few things while I'm waiting for my fuel pump install kit.

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Anybody know what these do? They fell as I adjusted the steering rack.
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husam2012 06-29-2017 10:32 AM

Finishes installing the fuel pump and it still idles fine.

One thing I just caught is that the low oil pressure light has been on since the first day I started it!

I'm hoping it's the sensor gone bad and not a different problem because It was a perfectly running engine before.

I'm ordering a pressure gauge and installing it instead of the oem sensor.
I'm hoping everything is well before my dyno appt 2 weeks from now.

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husam2012 07-01-2017 01:02 AM

This might be the last and final post I make on here.

Bad bad news. The oil light that went unnoticed by everyone including myself turned out to be very real and not due to a damaged sensor.



After the initial panic, I opened the turbo feed lines and I found oil in there.

Turbo drain lines? Nothing there but tiny drops.

Turbo inlets? Dust on the driver side :(


I guess I'm in denial at the moment but the worst case scenario is probably what happened.

No oil pressure due to something magical, followed by the turbos oil starving and the engine grinding itself slowly (it still sounds perfect somehow)

I will drop the pan tomorrow to see if that is the case. I will post back on here if I got lucky by an act of god.

Thanks everyone for your support along this dream project of mine! I couldn't have gotten this far without you guys.I guess I should of listened to the older members on here so I wouldn't be in such a horrible situation.


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ScottM 07-01-2017 05:58 AM

[QUOTE=husam2012;3670086]

After the initial panic, I opened the turbo feed lines and I found oil in there.

Turbo drain lines? Nothing there but tiny drops.

Turbo inlets? Dust on the driver side :(


I guess I'm in denial at the moment but the worst case scenario is probably what happened.

No oil pressure due to something magical, followed by the turbos oil starving and the engine grinding itself slowly (it still sounds perfect somehow)

I will drop the pan tomorrow to see if that is the case. I will post back on here if I got lucky by an act of god.

Thanks everyone for your support along this dream project of mine! I couldn't have gotten this far without you guys.I guess I should of listened to the older members on here so I wouldn't be in such a horrible situation.
:eek:
Dude I hope you find something that is not terribly expensive. Best of luck mate.

Rusty 07-01-2017 08:06 AM

:(

Hotrodz 07-01-2017 09:58 AM

Say it ain't so...say it ain't so! Sorry bro!


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