CSC Failed - Need Help Fast Please

Dwight Frye · 01-03-2017, 01:39 PM

I had my 2009 Z serviced last week. It has 65K miles on it, I am the original owner. I complained that the clutch felt soft. They charged me $252 to drain and flush the clutch fluid and replace with DOT4 GTR fluid. The clutch pedal still felt like crap all weekend. This morning it went to the floor and exhibited all signs of CSC failure that have been described on this board.
The car is at the dealer now. Here is what they said:

Replace CSC. Entails dropping the transmission to get to it. Repair cost is $1595
Replace Master Clutch Cylinder. Repair cost is $356. Total for both is $1951

I thought the CSC is the cylinder located at the upper left rear by the reservoir for the clutch fluid ?

Are they F.O.S. and trying to hose me for $1951 ? Please help. Thanks guys

kenchan · 01-03-2017, 01:42 PM

csc is located INSIDE the tranny casing.

sounds bout right though for a dealer fix.. u need to drop the tranny.

kenchan · 01-03-2017, 01:43 PM

another reason y id get the external slave cylinder mod if mine ever died. den no need to drop the tranny to swap cylinders.

Duc_Z09 · 01-03-2017, 01:47 PM

Doesn't Z1 make a kit that eliminates the need for the slave entirely? I'd go with that if you have to do all the work anyway... no need to ever worry about it again.

Dwight Frye · 01-03-2017, 01:50 PM

Thanks, looks like I'll be spending my tax refund in advance. I will ask the dealer to refund the $252 I paid last week for the drain & flush of the clutch fluid.

Duc_Z09 · 01-03-2017, 01:54 PM

https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...it-p-7340.html

Duc_Z09 · 01-03-2017, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Thanks, looks like I'll be spending my tax refund in advance. I will ask the dealer to refund the $252 I paid last week for the drain & flush of the clutch fluid.

That's the kind of thing you can do yourself if you wanna save some $$.

kenchan · 01-03-2017, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Doesn't Z1 make a kit that eliminates the need for the slave entirely? I'd go with that if you have to do all the work anyway... no need to ever worry about it again.

I'm pretty sure datz the same external slave setup i mentioned.. meaning u still have a slave.

kenchan · 01-03-2017, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Thanks, looks like I'll be spending my tax refund in advance. I will ask the dealer to refund the $252 I paid last week for the drain & flush of the clutch fluid.

yah, sounds fair to me for their failed assessment.
GL

at least you can get another 50k+ miles with ur new factory csc..

Duc_Z09 · 01-03-2017, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

I'm pretty sure datz the same external slave setup i mentioned.. meaning u still have a slave.

Oh yeah. Should have specified internal, crappy prone-to-failure slave.

MagmaRed370z · 01-03-2017, 02:12 PM

Price sounds about right. I would definitely replace it with the Z1 so you don't have to do this all over again when it fails again (AND IT WILL).

madeinjapan · 01-03-2017, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

I had my 2009 Z serviced last week. It has 65K miles on it, I am the original owner. I complained that the clutch felt soft. They charged me $252 to drain and flush the clutch fluid and replace with DOT4 GTR fluid. The clutch pedal still felt like crap all weekend. This morning it went to the floor and exhibited all signs of CSC failure that have been described on this board.
The car is at the dealer now. Here is what they said:

Replace CSC. Entails dropping the transmission to get to it. Repair cost is $1595
Replace Master Clutch Cylinder. Repair cost is $356. Total for both is $1951

I thought the CSC is the cylinder located at the upper left rear by the reservoir for the clutch fluid ?

Are they F.O.S. and trying to hose me for $1951 ? Please help. Thanks guys

Dwight Frye · 01-03-2017, 02:26 PM

Yep, I'm hosed. I do a lot of routine maintenance like oil changes, transmission and differential oil changes, etc but brake jobs, dropping the transmission and that type of work are beyond my capabilities. The car has been trouble free for 7 years and 65K miles other than this major expense.

By the way, thanks everyone for the quick responses and Happy New Year

shirokenkami · 01-03-2017, 03:25 PM

ZSpeed also has a kit. It's the one I used.

ZSpeed Performance Nissan 300ZX 350Z 370Z Infiniti G35 G37 Q50 Q60

mishuko · 01-03-2017, 03:44 PM

Definitely do the master when you do the slave. I did the HD csc from z1.

Parts were about 700 cad (fk the conversion) labour was about 800 and went through 4 bottles of clutch fluids due to a string of faulty bleeder screw. Fml.

Thanks for reminding me I used some shoddy dot 4 on the last one since I didn't want to to waste anymore Rbf 60p or endless... lol sigh.

01-03-2017, 01:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	CSC Failed - Need Help Fast Please I had my 2009 Z serviced last week. It has 65K miles on it, I am the original owner. I complained that the clutch felt soft. They charged me $252 to drain and flush the clutch fluid and replace with DOT4 GTR fluid. The clutch pedal still felt like crap all weekend. This morning it went to the floor and exhibited all signs of CSC failure that have been described on this board. The car is at the dealer now. Here is what they said: Replace CSC. Entails dropping the transmission to get to it. Repair cost is $1595 Replace Master Clutch Cylinder. Repair cost is $356. Total for both is $1951 I thought the CSC is the cylinder located at the upper left rear by the reservoir for the clutch fluid ? Are they F.O.S. and trying to hose me for $1951 ? Please help. Thanks guys

01-03-2017, 01:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	csc is located INSIDE the tranny casing. sounds bout right though for a dealer fix.. u need to drop the tranny. shirokenkami likes this.

01-03-2017, 01:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	Doesn't Z1 make a kit that eliminates the need for the slave entirely? I'd go with that if you have to do all the work anyway... no need to ever worry about it again. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

01-03-2017, 01:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...it-p-7340.html __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

01-03-2017, 02:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	Price sounds about right. I would definitely replace it with the Z1 so you don't have to do this all over again when it fails again (AND IT WILL). __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod

01-03-2017, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	another reason y id get the external slave cylinder mod if mine ever died. den no need to drop the tranny to swap cylinders.

01-03-2017, 01:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	Thanks, looks like I'll be spending my tax refund in advance. I will ask the dealer to refund the $252 I paid last week for the drain & flush of the clutch fluid.

01-03-2017, 02:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	Yep, I'm hosed. I do a lot of routine maintenance like oil changes, transmission and differential oil changes, etc but brake jobs, dropping the transmission and that type of work are beyond my capabilities. The car has been trouble free for 7 years and 65K miles other than this major expense. By the way, thanks everyone for the quick responses and Happy New Year Last edited by Dwight Frye; 01-03-2017 at 03:07 PM.

01-03-2017, 03:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
shirokenkami Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Middle Tennessee Age: 38 Posts: 232 Drives: 2013 Z Tour Spt 6mt Rep Power: 23	ZSpeed also has a kit. It's the one I used. ZSpeed Performance Nissan 300ZX 350Z 370Z Infiniti G35 G37 Q50 Q60 TechnicZ, Volko and TBatt like this. __________________ “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke

01-03-2017, 03:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
mishuko A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bouncin on tigga Posts: 8,062 Drives: '12 Z Rep Power: 9435	Definitely do the master when you do the slave. I did the HD csc from z1. Parts were about 700 cad (fk the conversion) labour was about 800 and went through 4 bottles of clutch fluids due to a string of faulty bleeder screw. Fml. Thanks for reminding me I used some shoddy dot 4 on the last one since I didn't want to to waste anymore Rbf 60p or endless... lol sigh.

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