My proposed BUILD

shadow85 · 12-11-2016, 08:07 AM

Time has come, probably in the next few months, to inject some real power into my currently bone stock 7AT Z.

I have chosen to go Supercharger route, because I most likely do not want to go beyond 550whp if I even can get their. I am currently aiming for 450whp and lowest boost possible.

So doing some research and the help of other members I have come up with the following list of parts to my build:

Stage 2 SC kit
HD Radiator +hear exchanger +highoutput fans (Possibly overkill, may chose cheaper rad)
HD Trans Cooler
AAM R-Line Oil Cooler (Possibly overkill, may just go with a 34-row cooler)
Stillen CBE + Berk HFC (Have read good reviews on stillen, not loud, and no drone, low rasp)
CJM S1.SE Fuel System
CJM Active Baffle Oil Pan (Yes, maybe overkill)
1000cc HD injectors
Not sure what fuel pump

Most likely an UpRev Tune. And in the future may use a Level 10 Rebuild on the 7AT.
I have not bought any of these parts yet, so still open to change up my build.

This Z is my DD but it might see some track usage through the year.

Not sure if there are things I left out, what do you guys think about this potential build?

Are there other things I may need or don't need?

EDIT: Removed the brand of some items, just to try and keep the thred civilized.

SouthArk370Z · 12-11-2016, 08:41 AM

Gamma on The370Z.com

shadow85 · 12-14-2016, 07:51 AM

I don't understand??

So the GTM/Gamma SC builds here are not really a fast FI upgrade?

Bit confused...

What about Stillen A2A?

bcfromfl · 12-14-2016, 03:23 PM

Trying to help get this thread back on track

I'd like to see some discussion between Stillen A2A and the Rotrex unit. Essentially the same power, or maybe slightly different curves?

Presto · 12-15-2016, 06:20 AM

none of the well informed members on here will recommend you buy anything from gtm/gamma or any such shady business. If you dont know the history behind them i either suggest you read on up this very forum or if you cannot, i suggest you stay clear of buying from them.

Your only option for a supercharger is stillen. Be warned though, the stillen tune is supposedly terrible as well. You need another tune from an experienced tuner.

shadow85 · 12-15-2016, 06:11 PM

I have read many threads on Gamma after GTM, and I am aware of Sam and GTMs disgusting misconduct.

However I believe the new owners are not anything like Sam nor do they have the same intentions. I am willing to trust them and give them a chance, and I hope I do not offend anyone here in doing so.

If I was to go Stillen, it would be with the A2A upgrade, and it would be a custom tune from revZone in Melbourne, they have done over 40 boosted Zs since 2010.

But I am still deciding between Stillen A2A or Gamma Stage 2. I can get the later for around $6K brand new, where as the Stillen will cost me over $6K plus another $1.5K or so for the A2A upgrade.

Elmo370z · 12-16-2016, 03:30 AM

Why don't you just wait for the rjm kit to come out. If you plan on going to z days, the kit will be shown there and possibly put into the raffle. That kit seems to be the only hope for blowers to work great on our platform.

shadow85 · 12-16-2016, 03:33 AM

Ahaha Zdays. Yeah I will just put my Z on a boat for 2 months and come for the Zday :P lol

That being said, I have been following the RJM whipple thread, and extremly tempted to wait. It's just that I really imptient atm, I want POWA now. But I guess good things take time so I may aswell wait...

Wilson2608 · 12-16-2016, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Why don't you just wait for the rjm kit to come out. If you plan on going to z days, the kit will be shown there and possibly put into the raffle. That kit seems to be the only hope for blowers to work great on our platform.

Hmm this sounds interesting. Is there a forum or anything giving more detail on this? I googled but couldn't find anything besides the clutch pedal.

JARblue · 12-16-2016, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson2608

Hmm this sounds interesting. Is there a forum or anything giving more detail on this? I googled but couldn't find anything besides the clutch pedal.

Search for RJ Manufacturing. RJM Performance is the company with the clutch pedal assembly.

Wilson2608 · 12-16-2016, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Search for RJ Manufacturing. RJM Performance is the company with the clutch pedal assembly.

Got it. thanks!

Jayhovah · 12-16-2016, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Presto

none of the well informed members on here will recommend you buy anything from gtm/gamma or any such shady business. If you dont know the history behind them i either suggest you read on up this very forum or if you cannot, i suggest you stay clear of buying from them.

I know you are trying to be helpful, but I suggest you read up on this forum to see if anyone has actually been screwed by Gamma, because I have not seen it yet. Comments like this are affecting another human being's livelihood, and are also working against some great aftermarket options for our cars... if you have first hand knowledge of a bad experience, feel free to share.

I hope people will start coming around on this. There is no debate over the quality of GTM/Gamma products. As of right now, Gamma still is not allowed on this forum because of the sins of GTM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85

I have read many threads on Gamma after GTM, and I am aware of Sam and GTMs disgusting misconduct.

However I believe the new owners are not anything like Sam nor do they have the same intentions. I am willing to trust them and give them a chance, and I hope I do not offend anyone here in doing so.

I completely agree with this, and I have first hand experience with both companies having been on the GTM V3 TT Groupbuy and then purchasing my V3 kit from Gamma after they took over.

Chuck33079 · 12-16-2016, 12:06 PM

Also, RJ Manufacturing has plenty of backstory on them as well. I'd be hesitant to give them any money or run anything they designed.

Jayhovah · 12-16-2016, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Also, RJ Manufacturing has plenty of backstory on them as well. I'd be hesitant to give them any money or run anything they designed.

I live in Tampa Bay, and Bobby has changed his company 3 times now since I first got my 350z. I do not know exactly what his level of participation is with RJ.

I do know, in my limited experience with the Z scene here in the area... I have yet to see an FI build done by his shops that haven't had plenty of problems. The few people I know have all blown motors, had crazy scope and timeline creep, etc. I am sure there are success stories, but I have no first or second hand knowledge of them.

Maybe it will be different with RJ, but I wouldn't let that guy anywhere near my car. Just my 2 cents.

Chuck33079 · 12-16-2016, 12:15 PM

Bobby IS RJ Manufacturing.

12-11-2016, 08:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	My proposed BUILD Time has come, probably in the next few months, to inject some real power into my currently bone stock 7AT Z. I have chosen to go Supercharger route, because I most likely do not want to go beyond 550whp if I even can get their. I am currently aiming for 450whp and lowest boost possible. So doing some research and the help of other members I have come up with the following list of parts to my build: Stage 2 SC kit HD Radiator +hear exchanger +highoutput fans (Possibly overkill, may chose cheaper rad) HD Trans Cooler AAM R-Line Oil Cooler (Possibly overkill, may just go with a 34-row cooler) Stillen CBE + Berk HFC (Have read good reviews on stillen, not loud, and no drone, low rasp) CJM S1.SE Fuel System CJM Active Baffle Oil Pan (Yes, maybe overkill) 1000cc HD injectors Not sure what fuel pump Most likely an UpRev Tune. And in the future may use a Level 10 Rebuild on the 7AT. I have not bought any of these parts yet, so still open to change up my build. This Z is my DD but it might see some track usage through the year. Not sure if there are things I left out, what do you guys think about this potential build? Are there other things I may need or don't need? EDIT: Removed the brand of some items, just to try and keep the thred civilized. Last edited by shadow85; 12-11-2016 at 04:22 PM.

12-11-2016, 08:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	Gamma on The370Z.com Presto likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

12-16-2016, 12:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Also, RJ Manufacturing has plenty of backstory on them as well. I'd be hesitant to give them any money or run anything they designed. JARblue and Jayhovah like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-16-2016, 12:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Bobby IS RJ Manufacturing. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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12-14-2016, 07:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	I don't understand?? So the GTM/Gamma SC builds here are not really a fast FI upgrade? Bit confused... What about Stillen A2A?

12-14-2016, 03:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
bcfromfl Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Youngstown, FL Posts: 256 Drives: 2015 PW Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 9	Trying to help get this thread back on track I'd like to see some discussion between Stillen A2A and the Rotrex unit. Essentially the same power, or maybe slightly different curves?

12-15-2016, 06:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Presto Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Home Posts: 123 Drives: Car Rep Power: 15	none of the well informed members on here will recommend you buy anything from gtm/gamma or any such shady business. If you dont know the history behind them i either suggest you read on up this very forum or if you cannot, i suggest you stay clear of buying from them. Your only option for a supercharger is stillen. Be warned though, the stillen tune is supposedly terrible as well. You need another tune from an experienced tuner.

12-15-2016, 06:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	I have read many threads on Gamma after GTM, and I am aware of Sam and GTMs disgusting misconduct. However I believe the new owners are not anything like Sam nor do they have the same intentions. I am willing to trust them and give them a chance, and I hope I do not offend anyone here in doing so. If I was to go Stillen, it would be with the A2A upgrade, and it would be a custom tune from revZone in Melbourne, they have done over 40 boosted Zs since 2010. But I am still deciding between Stillen A2A or Gamma Stage 2. I can get the later for around $6K brand new, where as the Stillen will cost me over $6K plus another $1.5K or so for the A2A upgrade.

12-16-2016, 03:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Why don't you just wait for the rjm kit to come out. If you plan on going to z days, the kit will be shown there and possibly put into the raffle. That kit seems to be the only hope for blowers to work great on our platform.

12-16-2016, 03:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	Ahaha Zdays. Yeah I will just put my Z on a boat for 2 months and come for the Zday :P lol That being said, I have been following the RJM whipple thread, and extremly tempted to wait. It's just that I really imptient atm, I want POWA now. But I guess good things take time so I may aswell wait...