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More great news! (Maybe more like an update.) I did as Dreadnaught suggested and after the engine was at normal operating temperature, I wiggled and pulled a bit on the

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Old 07-23-2016, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More great news! (Maybe more like an update.)

I did as Dreadnaught suggested and after the engine was at normal operating temperature, I wiggled and pulled a bit on the hose near the OEM clamp. There was no leakage, but I also tried rotating the hose a bit and it did indeed rotate quite easily-- too easily, IMO.

So I spent $3.79 on two stainless steel hose clamps, cleaned the tube and the affected area of any remnants of coolant, removed and saved the OEM clamp and, using a manual nut driver, installed the new clamp just tight enough so that I could not rotate the hose using the same effort that had easily rotated the OEM clamp.

We'll drive the car for some more kms and this time, after each and every ride, I'll be checking for remnants of leakage. I'm betting that there will be none. (And because I have placed a bet, there will definitely be some leakage.)
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I'm glad you found that leak on the hose. Also, hoses should not move easily. Your clamp was definitely worn out. And as you said, just monitor the area.
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I'm glad you found that leak on the hose. Also, hoses should not move easily. Your clamp was definitely worn out. And as you said, just monitor the area.
Our vehicle was purchased by its original owner in July of 2014, which means that the clamp has been in "hot" service for probably not much more than 2 years. How the heck it could have worn out in 2 years is beyond me. If it was indeed not holding the hose tightly enough, I bet it's because its spring steel was not quenched correctly by its manufacturer, or it was removed at some point and, as a result of that process, the clamp lost some of its tension.

This is why I think that it's best to stick with a clamp whose "squeeze" can be adjusted at will and re-adjusted over time.

This evening my wife and I went on a joy ride (I say "joy" because it included a stop at DQ to get my wife a banana split) that lasted about 45 minutes. No high performance anything, but when we got home I checked the usual suspect and there was no leakage whatsoever, so I believe I may have fixed with a clamp what an expert technician said required a new cap.
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Our vehicle was purchased by its original owner in July of 2014, which means that the clamp has been in "hot" service for probably not much more than 2 years. How the heck it could have worn out in 2 years is beyond me. If it was indeed not holding the hose tightly enough, I bet it's because its spring steel was not quenched correctly by its manufacturer, or it was removed at some point and, as a result of that process, the clamp lost some of its tension.

This is why I think that it's best to stick with a clamp whose "squeeze" can be adjusted at will and re-adjusted over time.

This evening my wife and I went on a joy ride (I say "joy" because it included a stop at DQ to get my wife a banana split) that lasted about 45 minutes. No high performance anything, but when we got home I checked the usual suspect and there was no leakage whatsoever, so I believe I may have fixed with a clamp what an expert technician said required a new cap.
Haha! And as far as the clamp sometimes things just go bad prematurely.
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Haha! And as far as the clamp sometimes things just go bad prematurely.
Yes, that's right. What would have happened if that clamp had been just a bit looser and the hose had inconveniently popped right off in Alberta's famous "middle of nowhere" -- for example, half way up some steep mountain hill located half way between Jasper and Lake Louise on the famous Icefields Parkway -- a trip we'd like to take this summer in our fabulous Z?

Considering the reality of what has just happened, I'm now seriously considering whether I should proactively / pre-emptively replace all of the coolant system's OEM spring clamps-- especially the larger ones --- to prevent this possibility. This would not be an expensive or difficult operation and it would completely eliminate both the nagging thought of such a possibility or the any inhibition to "floor it".

Am I being too paranoid?
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Yes, that's right. What would have happened if that clamp had been just a bit looser and the hose had inconveniently popped right off in Alberta's famous "middle of nowhere" -- for example, half way up some steep mountain hill located half way between Jasper and Lake Louise on the famous Icefields Parkway -- a trip we'd like to take this summer in our fabulous Z?

Considering the reality of what has just happened, I'm now seriously considering whether I should proactively / pre-emptively replace all of the coolant system's OEM spring clamps-- especially the larger ones --- to prevent this possibility. This would not be an expensive or difficult operation and it would completely eliminate both the nagging thought of such a possibility or the any inhibition to "floor it".

Am I being too paranoid?
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Yes you are absolutely being paranoid. Oem spring clamps are usually much better grade than after market screw type. Also all the other bigger hoses will be using a much more robust spring clamp, the one on the little hose is just the wimpy flat spring steal not like the bigger thicker clamps.

As for your professional tech I can tell you what probably happened being I came from the industry. They usually get paid on a system called flat rate so paid per job. Probably got paid for the inspection saw the coolant and then given no time to diag so just threw a cap at it. Not saying it is right but it is what happens which is why I am a huge opponent of flat rate shops. If tech follows the proper steps then they make no money if they cheat they make more.
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