Redline mt90 problem?

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 08:24 AM

I recently changed my trans fluid (6mt) and now Im noticing in the morning when the trans is cold that shifts into 1st and 2nd seem a bit stiffer that before.
I thought it would improve not degrade shifting ease
Car has 43000 mis and prev owner had trans fluid changed st the 36000. The old fluid looked very clean
Any ideas why its shifting harder when cold ?

jwick · 03-31-2016, 09:17 AM

The 6MT uses MT85, not MT90. That might be part of your problem.

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 09:26 AM

I appreciate the reply however I cant imagine that theres that much of a differance between the two other then heat range .
By the way Im in so fla

MAMotorsports · 03-31-2016, 09:26 AM

That is correct, when using MT90 you will also normally have to a split with MTL. MT85 solves that problem by already being the correct mixture.

cv129 · 03-31-2016, 09:43 AM

At cold temp, since MT90 is "thicker" than MT85, wouldn't that be normal to have a slightly stiffer feel?

jwick · 03-31-2016, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankiev

I appreciate the reply however I cant imagine that theres that much of a differance between the two other then heat range .

By the way Im in so fla

This is a very picky transmission. That's why Redline created the special 85 blend. It makes more of a difference than you think.

And I'm in Houston so I'm familiar with the climate.

JARblue · 03-31-2016, 10:27 AM

Your problem is that MT90 is not the correct fluid for the 370Z 6MT. Put the correct fluid in there and you shouldn't have an issue.

Elmo370z · 03-31-2016, 12:15 PM

Funny how everyone is telling him its the wrong fluid, yet he still disagrees. People people

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Funny how everyone is telling him its the wrong fluid, yet he still disagrees. People people

Always seems to be someone to post a stupid comment and start trouble . If you have nothing useful to add please refrain from posting .
I didnt disagree just questioned the original answer which when you think about it doesnt make sense logically . The weights are very close . I now know it matters so thanks to all who responded with useful info

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 02:17 PM

I just searched my post from several weeks ago which requested info on which fluid to use for the trans and spooler who has the same car as me suggested mt90 which he used . Jarblue did mention mt85 but no one said not to use the 90weight .
I assume spooler is not having issues so I wonder once again whats up .
I guess Ill change it to 85 as see .

Could it be that I didnt fill it enough .It could be a little low .

Elmo370z · 03-31-2016, 03:55 PM

Dont get your panties all in a bunch. Spooler conditions are probably way different than what your car is in. Hence why he isnt having the same problem you are. Fsm is a very useful tool, if you dont plan or seriously mod your car or track it often then i wouldn't vary off oem spec.

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Dont get your panties all in a bunch. Spooler conditions are probably way different than what your car is in. Hence why he isnt having the same problem you are. Fsm is a very useful tool, if you dont plan or seriously mod your car or track it often then i wouldn't vary off oem spec.

I think thats the best advice Ive gotten . I did a search and Im not the only one whos had this problem with redline .Cant imagine why.

Im going back to nissan fluid

Filipe · 03-31-2016, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Fsm is a very useful tool, if you dont plan or seriously mod your car or track it often then i wouldn't vary off oem spec.

frankiev · 03-31-2016, 04:36 PM

Speaking of the fsm which I found on this site .Theres no index page . Im glad to have it but it tedious to find anything

Spooler · 03-31-2016, 04:49 PM

I use 75w90 for this reason alone. This issue is not new to me. The older cars had the exact same issue all the way back to the 1970's. 75w90 synthetic fixed it up every time.

03-31-2016, 08:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
frankiev Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: so fl Posts: 89 Drives: 2012 370 nismo Rep Power: 10	Redline mt90 problem? I recently changed my trans fluid (6mt) and now Im noticing in the morning when the trans is cold that shifts into 1st and 2nd seem a bit stiffer that before. I thought it would improve not degrade shifting ease Car has 43000 mis and prev owner had trans fluid changed st the 36000. The old fluid looked very clean Any ideas why its shifting harder when cold ?

03-31-2016, 09:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	The 6MT uses MT85, not MT90. That might be part of your problem. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

03-31-2016, 09:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	That is correct, when using MT90 you will also normally have to a split with MTL. MT85 solves that problem by already being the correct mixture. jwick and JARblue like this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

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cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,237 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	At cold temp, since MT90 is "thicker" than MT85, wouldn't that be normal to have a slightly stiffer feel? __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

03-31-2016, 10:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Your problem is that MT90 is not the correct fluid for the 370Z 6MT. Put the correct fluid in there and you shouldn't have an issue. jwick and EVOHUNTER like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-31-2016, 09:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
frankiev Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: so fl Posts: 89 Drives: 2012 370 nismo Rep Power: 10	I appreciate the reply however I cant imagine that theres that much of a differance between the two other then heat range . By the way Im in so fla

03-31-2016, 12:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Funny how everyone is telling him its the wrong fluid, yet he still disagrees. People people Filipe likes this.

03-31-2016, 02:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
frankiev Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: so fl Posts: 89 Drives: 2012 370 nismo Rep Power: 10	I just searched my post from several weeks ago which requested info on which fluid to use for the trans and spooler who has the same car as me suggested mt90 which he used . Jarblue did mention mt85 but no one said not to use the 90weight . I assume spooler is not having issues so I wonder once again whats up . I guess Ill change it to 85 as see . Could it be that I didnt fill it enough .It could be a little low .

03-31-2016, 03:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Dont get your panties all in a bunch. Spooler conditions are probably way different than what your car is in. Hence why he isnt having the same problem you are. Fsm is a very useful tool, if you dont plan or seriously mod your car or track it often then i wouldn't vary off oem spec.

03-31-2016, 04:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
frankiev Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: so fl Posts: 89 Drives: 2012 370 nismo Rep Power: 10	Speaking of the fsm which I found on this site .Theres no index page . Im glad to have it but it tedious to find anything wideglideleon likes this.

03-31-2016, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,834 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I use 75w90 for this reason alone. This issue is not new to me. The older cars had the exact same issue all the way back to the 1970's. 75w90 synthetic fixed it up every time. Last edited by Spooler; 03-31-2016 at 10:44 PM.

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