Cant Take Off

King_Ch1cas · 03-10-2016, 11:31 PM

When I attempt to take off, get the revs to 3000-3500 then drop the clutch. The whole back of my car shakes, jerks, and jumps

. Does anybody know what this could be? Thanks guys
Also VDS is off

Grindkiezer · 03-10-2016, 11:50 PM

Try launching at a lower RPM

King_Ch1cas · 03-10-2016, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grindkiezer

Try launching at a lower RPM

Thanks, but is it only my car that this happens too? Because it doesn't seem normal like somethings skipping

Grindkiezer · 03-11-2016, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Ch1cas

Thanks, but is it only my car that this happens too? Because it doesn't seem normal like somethings skipping

I used to try to launch a little over 3k as well but my car with it's worn tires would just "skip". So I feel like I know the feeling you're talking about. But I don't think that you are the only Z that does it. I'd say try running at a lower rpm and go from there

BGTV8 · 03-11-2016, 12:13 AM

What you are experiencing is axle tramp caused a lack of mechanical sympathy.

Take you car back to the place where you purchased it and ask for your money back, or swap for an auto transmission.

King_Ch1cas · 03-11-2016, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8

What you are experiencing is axle tramp caused a lack of mechanical sympathy.

Take you car back to the place where you purchased it and ask for your money back, or swap for an auto transmission.

Thank you for the help, is there anyway to fix this other than swapping to a manual transmission?

Thanks for all the reply guys, feels good knowing that there's people out there willing to help

BGTV8 · 03-11-2016, 02:24 AM

Use less rpm's when getting underway. Practice makes perfect.

POS VETT · 03-11-2016, 06:34 AM

It's called axle tramp or wheel hop. The whole powertrain and drivetrain hated you with a passion during such a moment. Consequences are somewhat dire, including chipped teeth (in transmission and ring & pinion), snapped axle, CV/U-joint damage, bushing damage, etc.

SouthArk370Z · 03-11-2016, 08:54 AM

Either you have a drivetrain problem or you don't know how to drive a manual. The way your questions and responses are worded, my guess is the latter. Find someone that knows how to use a clutch and see what they think.

King_Ch1cas · 03-11-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Either you have a drivetrain problem or you don't know how to drive a manual. The way your questions and responses are worded, my guess is the latter. Find someone that knows how to use a clutch and see what they think.

This only happens at launching in low RPM's because when I take her to 5000-5500 and do a burnout it's flawless

TerribleONE · 03-11-2016, 10:50 AM

Get some differential bushings. Helped eliminate a lot of the wheel hop I was getting in my car.

MagmaRed370z · 03-11-2016, 10:51 AM

Putting some good tires will definitely help out a lot. Also the weather can affect the wheel hop tremendously. When is cold out and your tires are cold is a no-no scenario. On a 70-80 degree weather, with good warm tires there should not be a problem.

SonicVQ · 03-11-2016, 01:48 PM

The solutions is: practice, practice and more practice.

Every car has a sweet spot for a proper (minimal wheel spin, maximum acceleration) launch. This is GREATLY influenced by tires, tire pressure, road surface, engine RPM and how quick the clutch is released.

Generally, lower engine RPM (around 3,000 RPM) with rapid BUT smooth clutch engagement, then nail the throttle should reduce wheel hop. If you do get a little wheel hop, push in the clutch just a little until it stops and release it.

Axle hop / wheel hop is VERY, VERY hard on the drivetrain. It is an easy way to break a CV joint.

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 06:46 PM

Don't drop the clutch on launch. Feather it. Problem solved.

Rusty · 03-11-2016, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8

What you are experiencing is axle tramp caused a lack of mechanical sympathy.

Take you car back to the place where you purchased it and ask for your money back, or swap for an auto transmission.

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS VETT

It's called axle tramp or wheel hop. The whole powertrain and drivetrain hated you with a passion during such a moment. Consequences are somewhat dire, including chipped teeth (in transmission and ring & pinion), snapped axle, CV/U-joint damage, bushing damage, etc.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Either you have a drivetrain problem or you don't know how to drive a manual. The way your questions and responses are worded, my guess is the latter. Find someone that knows how to use a clutch and see what they think.

Is the OP side steppin' the clutch pedal? Need to let the clutch out not so quickly. Keep doing what you have been doing, and you'll find driveline parts laying under the car.

03-10-2016, 11:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
King_Ch1cas Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z MNT6 Rep Power: 10	Cant Take Off When I attempt to take off, get the revs to 3000-3500 then drop the clutch. The whole back of my car shakes, jerks, and jumps . Does anybody know what this could be? Thanks guys Also VDS is off Last edited by King_Ch1cas; 03-10-2016 at 11:47 PM.

03-10-2016, 11:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Grindkiezer Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 824 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 14	Try launching at a lower RPM __________________ Z

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BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39974	What you are experiencing is axle tramp caused a lack of mechanical sympathy. Take you car back to the place where you purchased it and ask for your money back, or swap for an auto transmission. Rusty likes this.

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POS VETT Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 612 Drives: Z34\|C4LT4\|C6Z06\|V25 Rep Power: 3366	It's called axle tramp or wheel hop. The whole powertrain and drivetrain hated you with a passion during such a moment. Consequences are somewhat dire, including chipped teeth (in transmission and ring & pinion), snapped axle, CV/U-joint damage, bushing damage, etc. MagmaRed370z likes this.

03-11-2016, 08:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	Either you have a drivetrain problem or you don't know how to drive a manual. The way your questions and responses are worded, my guess is the latter. Find someone that knows how to use a clutch and see what they think. Rusty and wanker like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

03-11-2016, 02:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39974	Use less rpm's when getting underway. Practice makes perfect.

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TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	Get some differential bushings. Helped eliminate a lot of the wheel hop I was getting in my car. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

03-11-2016, 10:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	Putting some good tires will definitely help out a lot. Also the weather can affect the wheel hop tremendously. When is cold out and your tires are cold is a no-no scenario. On a 70-80 degree weather, with good warm tires there should not be a problem. __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod

03-11-2016, 01:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
SonicVQ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 230 Drives: G37 Sport Rep Power: 6720	The solutions is: practice, practice and more practice. Every car has a sweet spot for a proper (minimal wheel spin, maximum acceleration) launch. This is GREATLY influenced by tires, tire pressure, road surface, engine RPM and how quick the clutch is released. Generally, lower engine RPM (around 3,000 RPM) with rapid BUT smooth clutch engagement, then nail the throttle should reduce wheel hop. If you do get a little wheel hop, push in the clutch just a little until it stops and release it. Axle hop / wheel hop is VERY, VERY hard on the drivetrain. It is an easy way to break a CV joint. SouthArk370Z and Chuck33079 like this.

03-11-2016, 06:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Don't drop the clutch on launch. Feather it. Problem solved. xxAGAVExx likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent