Engine oil catch cans??

newls196 · 03-09-2016, 06:09 PM

I keep hearing about people installing these engine oil catch cans, does this motor burn oil that bad that this mod needs to be done? I did install a catch can in my 2000 Z28 way back 13 years but the LS1 motor was notorious for being an oil burner.. If this is a needed mod to do, where can i purchase it at? Thanks

2011 Nismo#91 · 03-10-2016, 07:50 AM

Vacuum lines go from the crank case to the intake manifold. It will help keep crank case oil out of there but that's about it.

newls196 · 03-10-2016, 08:28 AM

iS THERE A KIT TO BUY SOMEWHERE? i saw on aam's site a very nice kit to buy, but 500$ thats just crazy. ( DIY: Dual Oil Catch Cans 370Z ) I would love to buy that setup....

BC416 · 03-10-2016, 08:33 AM

Where have you read that people run catch cans on these cars? I've heard about it for the boosted folks but for a normal N/A car, I really doubt you'd benefit from running one.

EVOHUNTER · 03-10-2016, 08:44 AM

its beneficial for a NA car and a boosted car.

During normal operation of an internal combustion engine, there’s a compressed air and fuel mixture inside the combustion chamber that is ignited and as a result, forces the piston down. A small amount of that ignited mixture leaks past the piston rings and ends up in the crankcase. This leakage is often referred to as “blow-by” (leakage past the piston rings), as well as oil mist.
Some of the oil mist and other products settle along the engine intake and over time form a “gunk.” The oil catch can collects the oil mist and condenses the fuel vapors while allowing “cleaner” gases to be passed back into the intake.

It will keep your engine a lot cleaner.

BC416 · 03-10-2016, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

its beneficial for a NA car and a boosted car.

During normal operation of an internal combustion engine, there’s a compressed air and fuel mixture inside the combustion chamber that is ignited and as a result, forces the piston down. A small amount of that ignited mixture leaks past the piston rings and ends up in the crankcase. This leakage is often referred to as “blow-by” (leakage past the piston rings), as well as oil mist.
Some of the oil mist and other products settle along the engine intake and over time form a “gunk.” The oil catch can collects the oil mist and condenses the fuel vapors while allowing “cleaner” gases to be passed back into the intake.

I know what blow-by is. I'm just saying the cars are designed to run like that from the factory so I seriously doubt you will see any benefits from running one on a lightly modified Z. Money can be better spent elsewhere.

SouthArk370Z · 03-10-2016, 09:03 AM

For a NA 370Z engine, a catch can is not really needed. As per EVOHUNTER's great explanation, it will help keep the insides a little cleaner, but that shouldn't be a problem with a NA DD.

But, if properly installed/maintained, it won't do any harm. Go for it if it will make you feel better.

2011 Nismo#91 · 03-10-2016, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416

I know what blow-by is. I'm just saying the cars are designed to run like that from the factory so I seriously doubt you will see any benefits from running one on a lightly modified Z. Money can be better spent elsewhere.

Not everything from the factory is good as is (fuel tank, CSC, steering wheel lock), you are right there is little benefit to it but it can help keep things like TBs and other parts of the intake cleaner and less loss of power over time. 500 is worth it for a show car, but really one can just get a generic catch can system and mount it somewhere, there should be a DIY if you google search. They are "cheap" and easy to install.

SonicVQ · 03-11-2016, 01:00 PM

Our engines have two oil/air separator from the factory. They are located above the valve cover and connect the valve cover to the intake.

An aftermarket catch can will have a small benefit of keeping the throttle bodies a little cleaner, BUT they still will need to be cleaned.

Keep in mind: if not installed properly they can introduce an un-metered air leak.

newls196 · 03-11-2016, 01:08 PM

guys, i know what a setup like this does, and i understand a pcv system.. I do not want to come off sounding cocky by any means, but can someone point me in the direction of buying a setup or does one not exist as a "kit"... i appreciate y'all

EVOHUNTER · 03-11-2016, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416

I know what blow-by is. I'm just saying the cars are designed to run like that from the factory so I seriously doubt you will see any benefits from running one on a lightly modified Z. Money can be better spent elsewhere.

Where did I say you didn't know what blow by is? smh.

Only posting to help others understand what it does, and how its beneficial.

My z06 was stock, I had problems with the runners building up with crap, catch can solved this, its all over the z06 forums. Just because it was designed from the factory doesn't always mean its always the best.

Quote:

guys, i know what a setup like this does, and i understand a pcv system.. I do not want to come off sounding cocky by any means, but can someone point me in the direction of buying a setup or does one not exist as a "kit"... i appreciate y'all

theres not really a kit beside AAM, just buy 2 mishimotos, they have Lifetime warranty if they leak.

Mishimoto Compact Baffled Oil Catch Can, 2-Port, by Mishimoto

I bought 2 of these.

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 02:02 PM

Saikou michi makes some nice stuff.

newls196 · 03-11-2016, 03:08 PM

can i buy 2 of these and make them work? S1 350Z OCC Page

newls196 · 03-15-2016, 12:13 PM

little update... I reached out to Saikou michi and i have their custom made to order dual tank setup coming. Pretty happy about this purchase. Wasnt to expensive, will be very benificial, and will have a nice appearance when hood is open as i ordered them with red powder coating with white labels! Said it will be here in 7 weeks, as they are seemingly very busy this time of year, at least that is what i was told. Here is a pic of what their dual setup will look like..

Bagged370z · 03-15-2016, 01:32 PM

Might be a really stupid question, but is a single or dual catch can setup needed our motors?

03-09-2016, 06:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
newls196 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 115 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 9	Engine oil catch cans?? UPDATED see my last post I keep hearing about people installing these engine oil catch cans, does this motor burn oil that bad that this mod needs to be done? I did install a catch can in my 2000 Z28 way back 13 years but the LS1 motor was notorious for being an oil burner.. If this is a needed mod to do, where can i purchase it at? Thanks __________________ 2012 370z 6MT "Sport Package" Z1 CSC, Z1 Test Pipes, ARK Catback, Injen CAI, SpeedBooster, Custom PCV Canister setup, Z1 dyno tune coming soon Last edited by newls196; 03-15-2016 at 12:48 PM.

03-10-2016, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
newls196 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 115 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 9	iS THERE A KIT TO BUY SOMEWHERE? i saw on aam's site a very nice kit to buy, but 500$ thats just crazy. ( DIY: Dual Oil Catch Cans 370Z ) I would love to buy that setup.... __________________ 2012 370z 6MT "Sport Package" Z1 CSC, Z1 Test Pipes, ARK Catback, Injen CAI, SpeedBooster, Custom PCV Canister setup, Z1 dyno tune coming soon

03-10-2016, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
BC416 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 718 Drives: 2012 KAD 6MT Rep Power: 592	Where have you read that people run catch cans on these cars? I've heard about it for the boosted folks but for a normal N/A car, I really doubt you'd benefit from running one. __________________ F.I. / K&N / 180 / Forgestar

03-10-2016, 08:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	its beneficial for a NA car and a boosted car. During normal operation of an internal combustion engine, there’s a compressed air and fuel mixture inside the combustion chamber that is ignited and as a result, forces the piston down. A small amount of that ignited mixture leaks past the piston rings and ends up in the crankcase. This leakage is often referred to as “blow-by” (leakage past the piston rings), as well as oil mist. Some of the oil mist and other products settle along the engine intake and over time form a “gunk.” The oil catch can collects the oil mist and condenses the fuel vapors while allowing “cleaner” gases to be passed back into the intake. It will keep your engine a lot cleaner. __________________ Last edited by EVOHUNTER; 03-10-2016 at 08:46 AM.

03-10-2016, 09:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	For a NA 370Z engine, a catch can is not really needed. As per EVOHUNTER's great explanation, it will help keep the insides a little cleaner, but that shouldn't be a problem with a NA DD. But, if properly installed/maintained, it won't do any harm. Go for it if it will make you feel better. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

03-10-2016, 07:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,399 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	Vacuum lines go from the crank case to the intake manifold. It will help keep crank case oil out of there but that's about it.

03-11-2016, 01:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
SonicVQ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 230 Drives: G37 Sport Rep Power: 6720	Our engines have two oil/air separator from the factory. They are located above the valve cover and connect the valve cover to the intake. An aftermarket catch can will have a small benefit of keeping the throttle bodies a little cleaner, BUT they still will need to be cleaned. Keep in mind: if not installed properly they can introduce an un-metered air leak.

03-11-2016, 01:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
newls196 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 115 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 9	guys, i know what a setup like this does, and i understand a pcv system.. I do not want to come off sounding cocky by any means, but can someone point me in the direction of buying a setup or does one not exist as a "kit"... i appreciate y'all __________________ 2012 370z 6MT "Sport Package" Z1 CSC, Z1 Test Pipes, ARK Catback, Injen CAI, SpeedBooster, Custom PCV Canister setup, Z1 dyno tune coming soon

03-11-2016, 02:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Saikou michi makes some nice stuff. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-11-2016, 03:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
newls196 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 115 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 9	can i buy 2 of these and make them work? S1 350Z OCC Page __________________ 2012 370z 6MT "Sport Package" Z1 CSC, Z1 Test Pipes, ARK Catback, Injen CAI, SpeedBooster, Custom PCV Canister setup, Z1 dyno tune coming soon

03-15-2016, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
newls196 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 115 Drives: 2012 370z Rep Power: 9	little update... I reached out to Saikou michi and i have their custom made to order dual tank setup coming. Pretty happy about this purchase. Wasnt to expensive, will be very benificial, and will have a nice appearance when hood is open as i ordered them with red powder coating with white labels! Said it will be here in 7 weeks, as they are seemingly very busy this time of year, at least that is what i was told. Here is a pic of what their dual setup will look like.. blueranger and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ 2012 370z 6MT "Sport Package" Z1 CSC, Z1 Test Pipes, ARK Catback, Injen CAI, SpeedBooster, Custom PCV Canister setup, Z1 dyno tune coming soon

03-15-2016, 01:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bagged370z Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 66 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 10	Might be a really stupid question, but is a single or dual catch can setup needed our motors?

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