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Chuck33079 03-08-2016 10:12 AM
Why not just call joe@zspeed and Jon at Z1? Those guys will happily discuss their offerings with you to your hearts content.

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3431638)
Why not just call joe@zspeed and Jon at Z1? Those guys will happily discuss their offerings with you to your hearts content.
Just talked to Zspeed $1525 for parts...got quoted at $450 for labor to put it all in...thinking about just pulling the trigger.

Chuck33079 03-08-2016 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slammedsammy (Post 3431649)
Just talked to Zspeed $1525 for parts...got quoted at $450 for labor to put it all in...thinking about just pulling the trigger.

Might as well go ahead with it. That's a good labor price.

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3431666)
Might as well go ahead with it. That's a good labor price.
Last question I have really....Z1 quoted me at around $1100 for:
1 x Z1 370Z / G37 Clutch & Flywheel Combo () = $1,132.00
Friction Disc: Standard Full Face (+$0.00)
Flywheel Type: Z1 Mid Weight ($0.00)
Upgrades: Z1 CSC Elimination Kit (+$388.00)

and Zspeed quoted me at around $1500 for:
ZSpeed Performance High Performance Clutch and Billet Steel Flywheel Combo includes The ACT Heavy Duty Pressure Plate and ACT Performance Organic Street Disc along with the premium South Bend Lightweight 19lb Full Billet Steel Flywheel. ZSpeed Performance Upgraded Clutch Slave Cylinder (CSC) and OEM Master cylinder.

Is it worth it to shell out the extra cash for the Zspeed parts? What is the real difference between the 2 packages?

(also someone offered to sell me a Spec Clutch/Flywheel [part #SN35SST-2 #SN35AM9-2] for $750 brand new, and lives close to me but I know you guys said it was ****....)

As far as I know there is no aftermarket master cylinder made for the Z....correct?

Chuck33079 03-08-2016 11:23 AM
That spec is overpriced even if it's free.

The prices are pretty close once you add in the HD csc or elimination kit, and a new master.

Jayhovah 03-08-2016 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by slammedsammy (Post 3431582)
Doesn't the Z1 clutch/flywheel package come with new hydraulics? You can add them as a package, not totally sure what that includes but....it is $1500..I might take you up on that CSC...I appreciate all the help and advice.
The Z1 kit only comes with the clutch, flywheel, and stainless clutch line - but you can add the CSC eliminator as an option. You still will need to buy a new CMC.
The stainless clutch line included is not compatible with the Zspeed HD CSC, just FYI.

I went with the HD CSC instead of the Z1 eliminator because A) I scored one off the classifieds here for cheap and B) It stays closer to the original Nissan design. All else being equal (in this case, reliable clutch hydraulics), I usually try to stay as close to the OEM design as possible... call it a rule of thumb.
Also - most aftermarket parts are designed with mostly OEM equipment surrounding it... in this case - if you went with the Z1 Eliminator, you wouldn't be able to fit a BP Single turbo kit as an example.

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Originally Posted by slammedsammy (Post 3431675)
As far as I know there is no aftermarket master cylinder made for the Z....correct?
Nope.. but I had my mechanic install a new CMC for me and he used some kind of OEM equivalent part instead of the Nissan part. He said he did some research and the equivalent part had far lower failure rates compared to the Nissan (understandable considering how many of our CMCs fail)... the one he used was within a few bucks of the Nissan part price. I'll have to find out what he used....

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3431709)
That spec is overpriced even if it's free.

The prices are pretty close once you add in the HD csc or elimination kit, and a new master.
It actually is cheaper...by this quote....I don't really understand it. What I guess the biggest difference is the southbend flywheel. Anyone have experience with either (or both) and can recommend one over the other.

http://i63.tinypic.com/xaoy1f.png

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3431737)
The Z1 kit only comes with the clutch, flywheel, and stainless clutch line - but you can add the CSC eliminator as an option. You still will need to buy a new CMC.
The stainless clutch line included is not compatible with the Zspeed HD CSC, just FYI.

I went with the HD CSC instead of the Z1 eliminator because A) I scored one off the classifieds here for cheap and B) It stays closer to the original Nissan design. All else being equal (in this case, reliable clutch hydraulics), I usually try to stay as close to the OEM design as possible... call it a rule of thumb.
Also - most aftermarket parts are designed with mostly OEM equipment surrounding it... in this case - if you went with the Z1 Eliminator, you wouldn't be able to fit a BP Single turbo kit as an example.



Nope.. but I had my mechanic install a new CMC for me and he used some kind of OEM equivalent part instead of the Nissan part. He said he did some research and the equivalent part had far lower failure rates compared to the Nissan (understandable considering how many of our CMCs fail)... the one he used was within a few bucks of the Nissan part price. I'll have to find out what he used....
Interesting....Thanks for the info...I'm so confused/unsure of what to do at this point... :roflpuke2:

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 12:03 PM
+ rep power to all you helpful people!

Chuck33079 03-08-2016 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by slammedsammy (Post 3431741)
It actually is cheaper...by this quote....I don't really understand it. What I guess the biggest difference is the southbend flywheel. Anyone have experience with either (or both) and can recommend one over the other.



http://i63.tinypic.com/xaoy1f.png

That still doesn't include a master, so figure another $150 or so. They're going to be pretty much the same as far as the flywheel goes.

slammedsammy 03-08-2016 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3431744)
That still doesn't include a master, so figure another $150 or so. They're going to be pretty much the same as far as the flywheel goes.
Ok, I'm thinking of going with Zspeed package which comes with everything and not the CSC delete kit..

Chuck33079 03-08-2016 12:09 PM
Does it include a bottle of good fluid? If not, snag a bottle of Motul brake fluid.

Jayhovah 03-08-2016 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by slammedsammy (Post 3431741)
It actually is cheaper...by this quote....I don't really understand it. What I guess the biggest difference is the southbend flywheel. Anyone have experience with either (or both) and can recommend one over the other.
No experience with the Southbend kit, but I am running the Z1 full face clutch/flywheel with the ZSpeed HD CSC and have no complaints.

If you purchase anything from Z1, make sure you speak to them directly as they can put in a little discount for being a forum member.

Presto 03-09-2016 12:21 AM
I like dealing with joe@zspeed. Also joe is a lot easier to get in touch with, he replies to emails almost instantly even on a Sunday.
Z1 is a lot bigger and they tend to make mistakes with orders, takes longer to reply etc.

Both options are good, ultimately you can't really go wrong with either one.

EVOHUNTER 03-09-2016 09:19 AM
I Love my JWT combo, with heavy duty CSC, really cheap too.

down side, at idle my car sounds like a diesel lol.


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