Nissan 370Z Forum  

Break In Period?

break in periods are not there so your car can produce higher RPMs break in are for making your car last longer.. yes engines that are abused from day one

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-04-2009, 09:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
Base Member
 
GT-R man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: la
Posts: 38
Drives: 08 camry
Rep Power: 0
GT-R man is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

break in periods are not there so your car can produce higher RPMs break in are for making your car last longer.. yes engines that are abused from day one will have a tendency to put out more power due to the computer systems in the car such as VVT system will learn the way the owner drives and when it comes testing time it will replicate the way the driver uses the car. If someone babies that car the computer will do the same on the test because it is used to using less power and making better MPG... does this sound logical to anyone? I would hope so
GT-R man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 10:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
JoeyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Raeford, NC
Posts: 305
Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z
Rep Power: 186
JoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyD has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GT-R man View Post
break in periods are not there so your car can produce higher RPMs break in are for making your car last longer..
Higher RPMs? I'm pretty sure that regardless of how your cars computer learns your driving style when you push the pedal all the way down the same thing happens. I won't go in to open loop vs. closed loop because I don't know where the ECM makes the switch on this car. But, in your car that has been babbied carbon deposits are EVERYWHERE (robbing power and economy). Higer revs means more, faster air moving through the engine. This keeps things cleaner and working better. Maybe the cummulative load of driving like you stole it over say 100K miles might weaken something like a connecting rod or valve spring but probably not to the point of failure.

Anyway the reason that engines that have been driven hard make more power at WOT (there is only one WOT setting regardless of if you drive like grandma) is because the motor is clean(er).

Studdies have proven that the ideal engine RPM for longevity is 1500. So if longevity is all you care about enjoy driving your new 40K sports car like a lawnmower.

That being said it won't hurt anything to obey the published break in procedure. It will give you peace of mind and a chance to learn your new car. If you shorten it up a bit it's at your own risk but odds are it won't hurt anything.

I remember reading horror storries about Evo's not breaking in properly and leaking constantly. But I never came accross anything like that on a VQ.
__________________
When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?
JoeyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 04:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
Track Member
 
WShade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 765
Drives: 09 370Z T/S/N
Rep Power: 187
WShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond reputeWShade has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyD View Post
I remember reading horror storries about Evo's not breaking in properly and leaking constantly.
As a prior Mitsubishi owner, they leak as a brand due to improper engineering
__________________
Q50S
Q60 RS400
WShade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 06:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
Track Member
 
arcticreaver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Arcadia, CA
Posts: 769
Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG
Rep Power: 924
arcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond reputearcticreaver has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to arcticreaver Send a message via MSN to arcticreaver Send a message via Yahoo to arcticreaver
Default

my co-worker who is like a walking car dictionary told me what i should do -

have a light right foot.

don't go over 65mph on the highway

slow start and throttle

don't go over 3,000rpm

change oil after first 1000 miles

that's about it.
arcticreaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 06:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
Track Member
 
ssqpolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 882
Drives: '12 Black Nismo
Rep Power: 267
ssqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond reputessqpolo has a reputation beyond repute
Default

f**k that...dont rev past 4500 or floor it in the first 500 miles and try not too keep it at a consistent rpm for a prolonged amount of time (road trip!)...then change ur oil and drop it (right foot) like its hot. at least thats what most ppl say
ssqpolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 12:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
par4bmw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 267
Drives: 09 370 M6 Touring/Sp
Rep Power: 445
par4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond reputepar4bmw has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcticreaver View Post
my co-worker who is like a walking car dictionary told me what i should do -
have a light right foot.
don't go over 65mph on the highway
slow start and throttle
don't go over 3,000rpm
change oil after first 1000 miles
that's about it.
No way would I baby it that much. I would go absolutely nuts for that much driving that easily.

I fall in the in between camp. I try not to rape it, but do not follow the published rpm to the number. Knock on wood, have always been blessed with a well running engine.
par4bmw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 03:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
Base Member
 
GT-R man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: la
Posts: 38
Drives: 08 camry
Rep Power: 0
GT-R man is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

We could go on for days with this discussion, truth be told who gives a flying crap about what other people think of the proper way to break in or drive your car rignt? you could be a granny driving and always worry about whats going to happen or you could drive like a bat ouf of hell.. until something major goes on you wont notice it anyway... I think that this threat became more confusing for those who never owned a High performance car before than if they would have just driven their cars the way they wanted it to
GT-R man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 04:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
chubbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Zeeland
Posts: 1,046
Drives: 2016 370z Auto-Grey
Rep Power: 7586
chubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond reputechubbs has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash View Post
Break in period goes like this:

Over rev the motor, bring it in for a new one in 3 weeks.
...and don't forget not to check the oil.





I always break in my new cars by sitting on them and whipping them for 2 weeks. Never had any problems.
__________________
.

'03 Grey >>> '06 Black >>>'10 Silver >>> '16 Grey ^
chubbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2009, 03:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chesapeake, VA.
Posts: 17
Drives: 370z monterey blue
Rep Power: 16
dwsq is on a distinguished road
Default Old Man advice

My Father always said "break em in fast and they will stay fast" so I have followed that with every car I have ever owned and never had a problem...break em in like you own it....

D
dwsq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2009, 01:37 AM   #25 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 59
Drives: 09 370Z Bl 6MT
Rep Power: 16
6SPD_FTW is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, I sure hope THAT holds true! My new 370Z w/ sport package is HANDS DOWN, the fastest car I've ever been in! It kind of scares me!

Drove off the lot with 41mi on it, at 150mi, went on a 3-hr highway trip...but I did vary rpms and speed as much as possible.

To beat it all, it's saw redline MANY MANY times! Like...a lot of WOT redlines and 120mph probably 10 times so far. I've logged 1100 miles so far...

I've broken EVERY SINGLE rule in the book for break-in! I'm gonna change the oil @ 1200 miles and send it in for an analysis, so we'll see how bad a shape the engine is in.

Late,
Trav
6SPD_FTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2009, 03:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: socal
Posts: 1
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 16
stea1thviper is on a distinguished road
Default

The way i feel about it is:
1. throttle isn't what may cause problems, it's RPM
2. throttle helps seat your rings, RPM makes debris travel in higher oil pressures and puts stress on new parts
3. the engine is probably fine to get on at the 1200 mile oil change I just like the extra insurance of 3000
4. most people change oil after initial start up and heat cycle before taking it out on the road. It's a good idea, i'm just too damn excited to drive the car
5. always use conventional oil until 3000 miles. it isn't as slippery as synthetic and helps the parts "wear in" to each other/seat the rings
stea1thviper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2009, 01:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
Base Member
 
butters167's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 59
Drives: 6sp 370Z sport pkg
Rep Power: 16
butters167 is on a distinguished road
Default

Being a police officer for several years I have had the pleasure of breaking in a few patrol cars and have always been told to break em in like you're going to drive them. I and most others on the force have drove new cars hard from day one with no problem. Have cars go 100k without any major issues and these cars are drove hard everyday.

That being said I trying to break my 370z in by the book even though I've had a few WOT moments. Simply because this is the most expensive car I've had.
butters167 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2009, 02:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
zero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,259
Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R
Rep Power: 23
zero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GT-R man View Post
break in periods are not there so your car can produce higher RPMs break in are for making your car last longer.. yes engines that are abused from day one will have a tendency to put out more power due to the computer systems in the car such as VVT system will learn the way the owner drives and when it comes testing time it will replicate the way the driver uses the car. If someone babies that car the computer will do the same on the test because it is used to using less power and making better MPG... does this sound logical to anyone? I would hope so
I didn't know ECU has the AI capability.
__________________
http://www.the370z.com/members/zero-albums-general-photos-picture107371-capture.jpg
zero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2009, 02:18 PM   #29 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
zero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,259
Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R
Rep Power: 23
zero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond reputezero has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butters167 View Post
Being a police officer for several years I have had the pleasure of breaking in a few patrol cars and have always been told to break em in like you're going to drive them. I and most others on the force have drove new cars hard from day one with no problem. Have cars go 100k without any major issues and these cars are drove hard everyday.

That being said I trying to break my 370z in by the book even though I've had a few WOT moments. Simply because this is the most expensive car I've had.
It would nice to hear it from the service guys. Do the officers service their own cars they drive?
__________________
http://www.the370z.com/members/zero-albums-general-photos-picture107371-capture.jpg
zero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2009, 02:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
Base Member
 
butters167's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 59
Drives: 6sp 370Z sport pkg
Rep Power: 16
butters167 is on a distinguished road
Default

No, we have technicians that service all city vehicles on a regular basis. The main issues I've had with the patrol cars are suspension and steering (from offroad driving, bumps, and fast u turns.) Most of the engines hold up pretty well.

Last edited by butters167; 05-15-2009 at 02:32 PM. Reason: additional content
butters167 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Break-In a New Car TacoZ Nissan 370Z General Discussions 88 08-01-2012 04:37 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2