Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside!

Elmo370z · 07-06-2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven Nation

Yah, i dont really have much faith in the aftermarket headers though, the HP to $$$ ratio doesnt make much sense. I do plan on getting a cylinder head port, larger valves one day, and once that happens i doubt ill put the OEM headers back on. Unless im really broke!!!

Ma recommends long tubes or some type of header with the c2 cams to get the full benefits. Porting the heads on a stock short block isn’t going to yield you that much power. Seems like a waste if you referring to Hp to $$$ ratio. You’re better if porting the upper and getting a set of long tubes.

SurfDog · 08-20-2018, 06:44 PM

Blue line C1 cams
Red line C2 cams

Pretty good comparison as mostly same build on both pulls.
(Red pull was on block with proper pistons, blue pull had rattly, slightly too small pistons hence the rebuild with the C2s)

Similar hp
Slightly better low end torque with C2s

Spooler · 08-20-2018, 07:10 PM

Do you have test pipes, stock cats, HF cats, or long tube headers?

SurfDog · 08-20-2018, 07:11 PM

Edit;

Z1 400 hp kit, and Stillen g3 long tube intakes, Berk CBE.

Also,(but likely unrelated) z1 built short block, ATI harmonic balancer, jet hot ceramic coated from headers to test pipes. Nismo oil pump. Uprev tune. Z1 lightweight clutch/flywheel (6mt) billet CSC. Z1 vented rotors... I think that’s all the stuff that might effect hp/ torque numbers, and none of changed between cam swaps except for tightening the clearances between pistons and cylinders a few thousandths.

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FPenvy · 08-21-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog

Z1 400 hp kit Stillen long tubes.

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fyi the Z1 kit uses shorty headers not long tubes.

cv129 · 08-21-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog

Z1 400 hp kit Stillen long tubes.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

fyi the Z1 kit uses shorty headers not long tubes.

I think the long tube refers to the G3 intake

FPenvy · 08-21-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

I think the long tube refers to the G3 intake

my brain registered the previous question being about headers and didnt realize he answered about intakes

stillen does have a set of headers that are pretty much the exact shape/setup as the Z1 shorty headers. maybe thats why i went that way as well.

SurfDog · 08-21-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

I think the long tube refers to the G3 intake

Correct

James10694 · 11-12-2018, 01:54 AM

Maybe I missed it but has anyone done a before and after with the v1 or v2 cams on a turbo Z?

solidus · 11-12-2018, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by James10694

Maybe I missed it but has anyone done a before and after with the v1 or v2 cams on a turbo Z?

Mine is done now I just have to replace injectors to finish up tuning. It'll be kinda hard to compare it to anything because I'm running this with a 6870 turbo on a BP kit and 10:1 compression where most people go 9:1 .

James10694 · 11-13-2018, 02:00 AM

I was thinking about doing a before and after dyno to see results but it's hard not to upgrade the internals with the engine pulled.

Spooler · 01-03-2019, 12:44 PM

Z1 just busted the highest NA hp record with these cams. Video posted on Youtube.
376 HP.

Spooler · 01-03-2019, 12:49 PM

Whjaxn17 · 01-03-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Z1 just busted the highest NA hp record with these cams. Video posted on Youtube.
376 HP.

For anyone curious about whether it makes a difference in the sound or not, it does. Quite a bit, actually. It's no LS chop chop, but you can certainly tell the difference.

bmstitt · 01-03-2019, 03:09 PM

Congrats!

I heard in the video you have headers, test pipes, cbe, CAI w/ z1 upgrade, ported upper/lower intake manifolds. Anything else?

aftermarket diff, lightweight flywheel, rotors, etc?

08-20-2018, 06:44 PM	#392 (permalink)
SurfDog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado (9000 feet) Age: 56 Posts: 1,796 Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia, Rep Power: 15749	Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside! Blue line C1 cams Red line C2 cams Pretty good comparison as mostly same build on both pulls. (Red pull was on block with proper pistons, blue pull had rattly, slightly too small pistons hence the rebuild with the C2s) Similar hp Slightly better low end torque with C2s Elmo370z and zer099 like this. __________________ 09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix

08-20-2018, 07:11 PM	#394 (permalink)
SurfDog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado (9000 feet) Age: 56 Posts: 1,796 Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia, Rep Power: 15749	Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside! Edit; Z1 400 hp kit, and Stillen g3 long tube intakes, Berk CBE. Also,(but likely unrelated) z1 built short block, ATI harmonic balancer, jet hot ceramic coated from headers to test pipes. Nismo oil pump. Uprev tune. Z1 lightweight clutch/flywheel (6mt) billet CSC. Z1 vented rotors... I think that’s all the stuff that might effect hp/ torque numbers, and none of changed between cam swaps except for tightening the clearances between pistons and cylinders a few thousandths. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix Last edited by SurfDog; 08-21-2018 at 06:12 PM.

11-12-2018, 01:54 AM	#399 (permalink)
James10694 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 916 Drives: 2010 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	Maybe I missed it but has anyone done a before and after with the v1 or v2 cams on a turbo Z? __________________ Boosted Performance Single Turbo 618whp/489 tq

11-13-2018, 02:00 AM	#401 (permalink)
James10694 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 916 Drives: 2010 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	I was thinking about doing a before and after dyno to see results but it's hard not to upgrade the internals with the engine pulled. __________________ Boosted Performance Single Turbo 618whp/489 tq

01-03-2019, 12:44 PM	#402 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,792 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Z1 just busted the highest NA hp record with these cams. Video posted on Youtube. 376 HP. gbrettin, RanRich and Whjaxn17 like this.

08-20-2018, 07:10 PM	#393 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,792 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Do you have test pipes, stock cats, HF cats, or long tube headers?

01-03-2019, 12:49 PM	#403 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,792 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	gbrettin, Hotrodz, jchammond and 3 others like this.

01-03-2019, 03:09 PM	#405 (permalink)
bmstitt Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mclean, VA Posts: 183 Drives: '09 370z Sport Trng Rep Power: 12	Congrats! I heard in the video you have headers, test pipes, cbe, CAI w/ z1 upgrade, ported upper/lower intake manifolds. Anything else? aftermarket diff, lightweight flywheel, rotors, etc? __________________ ‘13 6MT - Ported upper/lower intake manifolds and TBs, AAM intake, Dewla Dezign Air Guide, ARK HFC, FI 18” res CBE

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