Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside!

MAMotorsports · 09-23-2015, 01:44 PM

When the time came for the 370Z Exhaust cams to be produced, we were more than happy to work with them to get a car in here and do some test work with the prototypes. After working with Jim Wolf for many years, we always jump at the chance to work with their new products as its always fun to see what they do.

The VVEL system is so well designed in this car, and intake cam is just not needed as an upgrade. We are excited to work more on testing the limits of the VVEL in the future but that is for a different post!

This is not an easy task for sure, but I think in the end the results are worth it, even more so as an add on to a motor build or a turbo set up when the motor is already out of the car.

PM ME FOR A PRICE ON THIS SET UP

The first Step in the process is to disconnect all the lines and wires that will connect the engine and transmission to the chassis, from there you will pull the driveshaft and all subframe mounting bolts, and trans mount bolts (With the engine cradle supported) and lift the chassis off the cradle.

Once that is completed, the next step will be to pull all the accessories and intake manifold from the engine to gain access to the valve covers.

With that done, you will now pull the valve covers and front cover off the motor. Then you will remove the VVEL Motors. (Make sure cylinder one is at TDC)

Moving on to all the moving components in the timing system, you will want to lock the tensioner in place and remove all the chains and gears from the front of the cams and be very careful about keeping this all in order, we used an empty table to mark and lay out each grouping of components to keep it all organized.

You will now remove all the cam cap bolts and the bed plate including the VVEL components. Be sure to keep all of this in order.

With all of that off, you will now work on the springs, we use a tool to pressurize the cylinders, and a simple spring compressor to pull the clips and retainers out. Repeat this process on all exhaust springs and replace it with the JWT springs from the kit.

Moving on, you will now want to place a small bead of RTV for the valve covers as it will need some time to set.

To install the cams, apply a liberal dose of assembly lube to the journals and set the cams in then apply lube to the top of the cams and place the cam cap assembly and VVEL assembly on. Torque it all down to spec and re-place VVEL motor on the rear.

From there you will assemble all the timing components and torque to spec

Reassemble the accessories and intake and drop chassis back over the cradle and bolt it all in.

These specific cams where a very conservative grind (Think of it as a stage 1) just to see how the motor would react, we are currently working on a set that will go into a Fast Intentions Twin turbo build, and are also working with JWT on some larger profile units so we can start to push it all a little farther.

Here is a comparison to the stock cam:

This car baselined at 298hp and 227tq (This was after an uprev tune, on a motor with a cat back and intake) after the cams the motor produced 309.5hp 258tq to the wheels. So the real star of this was the torque increase in the midrange as that is very noticeable when behind the wheel.

PM ME FOR A PRICE ON THIS SET UP

Feel free to post up any questions you may have!

The Dimer · 09-23-2015, 02:13 PM

Awesome results. I'd be curious to know what the all in cost on something like this would be. Definitely not something I'd be able to handle in my garage.

Elmo370z · 09-23-2015, 02:42 PM

They came out with this sooner than i expected? Are they making a valvetrain upgrade as well?

jaytirbhaw · 09-23-2015, 02:47 PM

Exciting stuff !

MAMotorsports · 09-23-2015, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dimer

Awesome results. I'd be curious to know what the all in cost on something like this would be. Definitely not something I'd be able to handle in my garage.

Expect 25 hours of labor roughly, its a great pair up with other items such as headers, turbos, or any of the number of things that dropping the cradle makes easier honestly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

They came out with this sooner than i expected? Are they making a valvetrain upgrade as well?

This has been in the works for a little while now, still much more progress to be had also. Yes, we also used the JWT Springs in the install, and an adjustable cam gear (That 99% of people will never need, we just wanted to test it all)

Elmo370z · 09-23-2015, 03:16 PM

Awesome i just pm'd you.

Spooler · 09-23-2015, 03:40 PM

Interesting. About time we got several choices.

Spooler · 09-23-2015, 03:41 PM

Is this grind a new billet or re-grind?

MAMotorsports · 09-23-2015, 03:47 PM

Once thing to be aware of, and I am working with JWT to nail down some solid info. For a brief period of time Nissan did not do a DLC coating on the exhaust side cam bucket. Those buckets are required for these cams due to the tolerances. Its an easy and cheap swap, and once we have exact manufacture dates I will keep everyone updated as far as who needs to buy those with the cams.

MAMotorsports · 09-23-2015, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Is this grind a new billet or re-grind?

JWT uses all new blanks for their grinds.

Elmo370z · 09-23-2015, 05:15 PM

Is jwt still working on a cam conversion for the intake side?

MAMotorsports · 09-23-2015, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Is jwt still working on a cam conversion for the intake side?

Yes they are, but really unless you are swapping the car to another chassis that has space constraints it not going to be a power adder really.

Elmo370z · 09-23-2015, 06:42 PM

I gotcha

ZKraken22 · 09-23-2015, 07:36 PM

So the car that was tested on had stock Cats? Also Pm price to 66215 with springs

ZKraken22 · 09-23-2015, 07:39 PM

Also will the cams change the idle sound?

09-23-2015, 01:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside! When the time came for the 370Z Exhaust cams to be produced, we were more than happy to work with them to get a car in here and do some test work with the prototypes. After working with Jim Wolf for many years, we always jump at the chance to work with their new products as its always fun to see what they do. The VVEL system is so well designed in this car, and intake cam is just not needed as an upgrade. We are excited to work more on testing the limits of the VVEL in the future but that is for a different post! This is not an easy task for sure, but I think in the end the results are worth it, even more so as an add on to a motor build or a turbo set up when the motor is already out of the car. PM ME FOR A PRICE ON THIS SET UP The first Step in the process is to disconnect all the lines and wires that will connect the engine and transmission to the chassis, from there you will pull the driveshaft and all subframe mounting bolts, and trans mount bolts (With the engine cradle supported) and lift the chassis off the cradle. Once that is completed, the next step will be to pull all the accessories and intake manifold from the engine to gain access to the valve covers. With that done, you will now pull the valve covers and front cover off the motor. Then you will remove the VVEL Motors. (Make sure cylinder one is at TDC) Moving on to all the moving components in the timing system, you will want to lock the tensioner in place and remove all the chains and gears from the front of the cams and be very careful about keeping this all in order, we used an empty table to mark and lay out each grouping of components to keep it all organized. You will now remove all the cam cap bolts and the bed plate including the VVEL components. Be sure to keep all of this in order. With all of that off, you will now work on the springs, we use a tool to pressurize the cylinders, and a simple spring compressor to pull the clips and retainers out. Repeat this process on all exhaust springs and replace it with the JWT springs from the kit. Moving on, you will now want to place a small bead of RTV for the valve covers as it will need some time to set. To install the cams, apply a liberal dose of assembly lube to the journals and set the cams in then apply lube to the top of the cams and place the cam cap assembly and VVEL assembly on. Torque it all down to spec and re-place VVEL motor on the rear. From there you will assemble all the timing components and torque to spec Reassemble the accessories and intake and drop chassis back over the cradle and bolt it all in. These specific cams where a very conservative grind (Think of it as a stage 1) just to see how the motor would react, we are currently working on a set that will go into a Fast Intentions Twin turbo build, and are also working with JWT on some larger profile units so we can start to push it all a little farther. Here is a comparison to the stock cam: This car baselined at 298hp and 227tq (This was after an uprev tune, on a motor with a cat back and intake) after the cams the motor produced 309.5hp 258tq to the wheels. So the real star of this was the torque increase in the midrange as that is very noticeable when behind the wheel. PM ME FOR A PRICE ON THIS SET UP Feel free to post up any questions you may have! DIGItonium, Valentino, phunk and 15 others like this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

09-23-2015, 02:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Dimer Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 632 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 15	Awesome results. I'd be curious to know what the all in cost on something like this would be. Definitely not something I'd be able to handle in my garage. __________________ K&N Drop-Ins, Z1 Post-MAF Tubes, FI 18" CF TDX, TWM Short Throw Shifter w/ A6 Leopard Knob, 'esfourteen' clutch helper spring, 'kellyefields' hood struts.

09-23-2015, 02:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
jaytirbhaw Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 814 Drives: 350z HR , Nismo 370z Rep Power: 16	Exciting stuff ! __________________ 2014 Nismo #350 , Built Motor, Top Mount Single Turbo .... 620 whp/ 500 lbs wtq 2012 Track/Drift Z, build coming soon. Build Thread - http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...70z-build.html

09-23-2015, 03:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Awesome i just pm'd you. MAMotorsports and Z34_trackslut like this.

09-23-2015, 03:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Once thing to be aware of, and I am working with JWT to nail down some solid info. For a brief period of time Nissan did not do a DLC coating on the exhaust side cam bucket. Those buckets are required for these cams due to the tolerances. Its an easy and cheap swap, and once we have exact manufacture dates I will keep everyone updated as far as who needs to buy those with the cams. 6SpeedZ likes this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

09-23-2015, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	They came out with this sooner than i expected? Are they making a valvetrain upgrade as well?

09-23-2015, 03:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,800 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Interesting. About time we got several choices.

09-23-2015, 03:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,800 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Is this grind a new billet or re-grind?

09-23-2015, 05:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Is jwt still working on a cam conversion for the intake side?

09-23-2015, 06:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	I gotcha

09-23-2015, 07:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
ZKraken22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,115 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 16	So the car that was tested on had stock Cats? Also Pm price to 66215 with springs __________________ Litespeed Racing Titanium Cold Air intake// GT Haus Axle// GarageLine combo// Nismo sway bars// Nismo Spoiler // Berk TP's

09-23-2015, 07:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
ZKraken22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,115 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 16	Also will the cams change the idle sound? __________________ Litespeed Racing Titanium Cold Air intake// GT Haus Axle// GarageLine combo// Nismo sway bars// Nismo Spoiler // Berk TP's

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