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Spooler 09-23-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pbs370z (Post 3315781)
I'm no expert but that's what it looks like to me too Joe. I got some bad advice and only broke in the clutch for about 250 miles before tracking and they were not all city miles - combination of highway and city.


Ouch, that would do it. It looked to me like the clutch disk was not fully broke in yet. I just wasn't sure. I had never seen that before until this post.

Rusty 09-23-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3315698)
One question. Were you relying on SRM completely during downshifting/braking zones? If so, you can't because you will do engine braking all the time which is not good for the clutch.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3315702)
Are you asking if he was only engine braking through turns on a track and not using the brakes? That would be ridiculous :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3315706)
No, I was asking if he was totally relying on the SRM to REV match for him in the braking zone. You must apply some throttle to limit the amount of engine braking. I noticed an issue at the Dragon when only relying on SRM to rev match.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3315712)
Gotcha! :tiphat:

Makes perfect sense. And yet another reason to practice my spirited driving with SRM off. Although I still have trouble heel-toe in this car with the gas pedal pivot at the floor, and I wind up fat-footing it a lot. Maybe I'll practice some downshifting with SRM on and additional throttle input to minimize the engine braking. Thanks for the tip :tup:

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3315719)
You can heel-toe with SRM on. SRM will not be affected. With the Z, you will want to use half your foot on the brake pedal and pivot your other half on the go pedal. It's not really heal-toe so to speak.

I use SRM all the time on the track with no issues. All the people who have ridden with me, thought that I heel&toe great. :rofl2:

pbs370z 09-29-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pbs370z (Post 3315781)
I'm no expert but that's what it looks like to me too Joe. I got some bad advice and only broke in the clutch for about 250 miles before tracking and they were not all city miles - combination of highway and city. Not nearly enough break-in apparently. So it does look like it did get too hot in small areas which caused it to fail. Pressure plate plate looks good to me with all fingers evenly matched. Thanks for your diagnosis on these pictures. I'll get back with you. Phil

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Update on my clutch disc:
Joe at Zspeed gave me an RMA for the clutch disc which he didn't really have to do, so you have to give Joe credit and also South Bend for repairing the clutch disk for me. Better than expected customer support. How often does that happen these days?
What can I say except thanks to both of them!

Update: this time I put 1000 miles (city/hiway) on the car before taking it to the track. Went out to the track back in early Nov and so far so good.

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JohnneyC01 10-09-2015 07:50 PM

Its great to know that Joe at Zspeed and Southbend stands by their products and offers help when needed. I just had my Southbend Stage 2 Daily Clutch Kit installed today. Currently in the breaking in stage until I reach about 750 miles. My initial impression: this is how the car should have came from the factory! I no longer have the sinking clutch pedal issue after shifting from normal city driving for 10 minutes.


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