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Duc_Z09 07-26-2015 04:42 PM

3 dirty intake runners?
 
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I changed out to NGK iridium plugs today (coming from a Mustang, this car is a PITA to work on:shakes head:) and noticed something weird. Intake runners on 2, 4, and 6 were noticeably dirtier than the other 3. I know I could just get Kenchan to photoshop my pic and make everything ok again, but I'd still like to know the cause...

SouthArk370Z 07-26-2015 05:01 PM

Aren't 3 of those for exhaust? If you mean the front intake is dirtier than the other two, I'd say that's normal. Possibly the EGR or some other pollution control that dumps toward the front of the engine.

kenchan 07-26-2015 05:03 PM

:confused:

Duc_Z09 07-26-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3267613)
Aren't 3 of those for exhaust?

I highly doubt it since they go directly into the plastic intake plenum. Plus they're not nearly dirty enough for that... just oily.

I'm going to feel incredibly stupid if you're right though.:facepalm:

kenchan 07-26-2015 05:21 PM

u still want me to photoshop? :icon17:

:wtf2:

Jordo! 07-26-2015 05:29 PM

It's probably just a characteristic of differences between the banks -- there's usually at least small differences in mixture/AFR correction due to sensor variation.

EGR valve location may enter into it as well as SouthArk suggested.

Overall, I'm guessing its normal.

SouthArk370Z 07-26-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3267620)
I highly doubt it since they go directly into the plastic intake plenum. Plus they're not nearly dirty enough for that... just oily.

I'm going to feel incredibly stupid if you're right though.:facepalm:

I was looking at it cross-eyed. You are correct. :tiphat:

SouthArk370Z 07-26-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3267636)
It's probably just a characteristic of differences between the banks -- there's usually at least small differences in mixture/AFR correction due to sensor variation.

EGR valve location may enter into it as well as SouthArk suggested.

Overall, I'm guessing its normal.

But there is sooooo much difference between the two banks. The slight differences in the even-numbered bank looks normal to me (recirc, &c). Even the "dirty" odd-numbered bank don't look all that bad (dirtier than what I'd like to see, but I've seen worse). The fact that the odd- and even-numbered runners are so different worries me.

But I've already proven that I'm no expert. ;)

DEpointfive0 07-26-2015 08:04 PM

Mine is similar, not sure which is more discolored though, it's been a while since I took the mani off

Duc_Z09 07-26-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3267701)
The fact that the odd- and even-numbered runners are so different worries me.

Yeah, that's what makes me nervous. If they were all clean or all semi-dirty I wouldn't have thought twice about it.

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3267626)
u still want me to photoshop? :icon17:

:wtf2:

Can't hurt.:icon17:

phunk 07-27-2015 06:57 PM

The one and the only thing that travels through the lower intake manifold runners aside from intake air, is PCV system re-circulation.

Its just PCV oil not being evenly distributed. While it leaves a film on the runners, its effects to engine performance are negligible.

Duc_Z09 07-27-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3268606)
The one and the only thing that travels through the lower intake manifold runners aside from intake air, is PCV system re-circulation.

Its just PCV oil not being evenly distributed. While it leaves a film on the runners, its effects to engine performance are negligible.

Thanks! I was concerned for a moment.:tiphat:

DIGItonium 07-28-2015 09:16 AM

It's the same for mine and others if you do a search. Catch can is probably on my favorites now because 25 miles is still enough to leave oil residue.

Duc_Z09 07-28-2015 05:21 PM

Just for laughs I should go to the Nissan dealership just to find out how much $$ I saved myself by doing this...

DIGItonium 07-28-2015 11:47 PM

I don't even want to know with mine. I changed the valve cover gaskets, spark plugs, cleaned throttles, replaced throttle and manifold gaskets, and I'm currently replacing the upper intake manifold with a brand new one. The old one warped enough to cause vacuum leak.

Are you getting a catch can setup? I recently installed it, and the intake manifold is bone dry. It's really nice.


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