VVEL and Jun cams

rich2342 · 07-26-2015, 11:36 AM

Vvel just kicked in, Yo!

It's kind of weird that there is a DE 350Z that makes 372 NA, probably the only one, but none the less. The VHR should in theory have loads more potential.

brucelidat · 07-26-2015, 11:48 AM

If I could make 30-40 whp/trq NA for 4-5k without ruining the sound (IMO) of the car and how it idles, drives etc., I would be in.

Elmo370z · 07-26-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rich2342

Vvel just kicked in, Yo!

It's kind of weird that there is a DE 350Z that makes 372 NA, probably the only one, but none the less. The VHR should in theory have loads more potential.

That de had itbs and **** load of other work to reach that power level, the vhr that made close to that had bssicbolt ons and cam

Elmo370z · 07-26-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Headwork sounds expensive.

By what you listed for your mods, can't be complaining about expensive. Ipp sells stage one heads for 1600.

lj909 · 07-26-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

If I could make 30-40 whp/trq NA for 4-5k without ruining the sound (IMO) of the car and how it idles, drives etc., I would be in.

If you do exhaust cams your going to get a more lobe sound. That's what makes those old muscle cars "lobe lobe lobe" big cams. But when you open it up, it'll scream.

brucelidat · 07-26-2015, 04:36 PM

If that lobe lobe lobe sound is form the cams, then I guess I am out for cams, that was the part of the idling sounds from 1slow370's car that i didn't like

DEpointfive0 · 07-26-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

If that lobe lobe lobe sound is form the cams, then I guess I am out for cams, that was the part of the idling sounds from 1slow370's car that i didn't like

That's one of the major reasons why people get cams, lol

Rusty · 07-26-2015, 11:37 PM

The more duration the cams have. The more lobe you will have at an idle. A cam with 250 duration is a lot smoother then a cam with 280 duration. Also when you have more duration. Your power band moves up the scale, and you will have less low end torque. This is a general rule of thumb. With VVEL and other things that the computer can do. The computer can smooth some of it out, but not all of it.

Elmo370z · 07-27-2015, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

The more duration the cams have. The more lobe you will have at an idle. A cam with 250 duration is a lot smoother then a cam with 280 duration. Also when you have more duration. Your power band moves up the scale, and you will have less low end torque. This is a general rule of thumb. With VVEL and other things that the computer can do. The computer can smooth some of it out, but not all of it.

From what I've read the cam starts to make power after 8k, so if your really serious about building an high rev motor I think the cam would be your best bet.

Rusty · 07-27-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

From what I've read the cam starts to make power after 8k, so if your really serious about building an high rev motor I think the cam would be your best bet.

The cam specs more or less tell you where the motor will make power. Lift, duration, overlap, lobe centerline, cam timing. But with the new motors like the motor we have. The computer controls somethings.

Elmo370z · 07-27-2015, 10:19 PM

Just going back on the set up 1slow370z had the cam started producing power above 8k

imjello · 07-28-2015, 11:11 AM

anyone know a vender that can get the camshaft?

Elmo370z · 07-28-2015, 03:12 PM

Bulletproof

imjello · 07-28-2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Bulletproof

Thank you!

brucelidat · 08-01-2015, 03:01 AM

the CTD germany 370z with jun cams didn't make that lobe lobe lobe sound that 1slow370's car made

07-26-2015, 11:48 AM	#32 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	If I could make 30-40 whp/trq NA for 4-5k without ruining the sound (IMO) of the car and how it idles, drives etc., I would be in. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	If that lobe lobe lobe sound is form the cams, then I guess I am out for cams, that was the part of the idling sounds from 1slow370's car that i didn't like __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,220 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	The more duration the cams have. The more lobe you will have at an idle. A cam with 250 duration is a lot smoother then a cam with 280 duration. Also when you have more duration. Your power band moves up the scale, and you will have less low end torque. This is a general rule of thumb. With VVEL and other things that the computer can do. The computer can smooth some of it out, but not all of it. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

07-27-2015, 10:19 PM	#41 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Just going back on the set up 1slow370z had the cam started producing power above 8k Last edited by Elmo370z; 07-28-2015 at 02:21 AM.

08-01-2015, 03:01 AM	#45 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	the CTD germany 370z with jun cams didn't make that lobe lobe lobe sound that 1slow370's car made __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

07-26-2015, 11:36 AM	#31 (permalink)
rich2342 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: ma Posts: 18 Drives: G37 Sedan / 350Z Rep Power: 12	Vvel just kicked in, Yo! It's kind of weird that there is a DE 350Z that makes 372 NA, probably the only one, but none the less. The VHR should in theory have loads more potential.

07-28-2015, 11:11 AM	#42 (permalink)
imjello Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: texas Posts: 285 Drives: F80 M3, S5 B9 Rep Power: 13	anyone know a vender that can get the camshaft?

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Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Bulletproof

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