Nissan 370Z Forum  

Oil Cooler Core Discussion

Hi all I had a question that I think would start a good discussion or at least clear up answer my question. I was looking at the DIY oil cooler

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree15Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-10-2015, 12:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
Track Member
 
lhinojos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 559
Drives: 12 370z GM M6
Rep Power: 14
lhinojos has a spectacular aura aboutlhinojos has a spectacular aura about
Default Oil Cooler Core Discussion

Hi all I had a question that I think would start a good discussion or at least clear up answer my question.

I was looking at the DIY oil cooler install that was posted a couple years back, and when filling the shopping cart I noticed that the off brand core(can't remember the name right now) was substantially cheaper then the mocal or setrab cores. My question is why is there such a big difference in price? Also would the cheaper option be suitable for track use?
lhinojos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2015, 12:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Setrab is used by NASCAR, you can throw a rock at it at 150 mph without any issue. You can hit the core with a hammer and not leak oil.


When an engine costs $8000, do you want to risk your oil cooler puncturing to save $100-200?
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2015, 12:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

(Also, eBay a used core)
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2015, 12:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TerribleONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Socal
Posts: 10,203
Drives: WOT
Rep Power: 5850
TerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond reputeTerribleONE has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lhinojos View Post
Hi all I had a question that I think would start a good discussion or at least clear up answer my question.

I was looking at the DIY oil cooler install that was posted a couple years back, and when filling the shopping cart I noticed that the off brand core(can't remember the name right now) was substantially cheaper then the mocal or setrab cores. My question is why is there such a big difference in price? Also would the cheaper option be suitable for track use?
Just remember you get what you pay for. If you are planning on tracking id go with the Setrab 34 row
lhinojos and jshare1 like this.
__________________
638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI
Build thread
TerribleONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2015, 01:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
Track Member
 
lhinojos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 559
Drives: 12 370z GM M6
Rep Power: 14
lhinojos has a spectacular aura aboutlhinojos has a spectacular aura about
Default

Okay so what I'm getting is that setrab uses stronger materials? Im not trying to cheap out, but I'm looking for more then a "this is better" get this, I wanna know why it's better.
lhinojos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 10:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 68
Posts: 35,220
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684438
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Unhappy

You get what you pay for. If you get it off of flea-bay. You may be getting a clone of a clone. If the core fails. The Z doesn't have an oil pressure gauge to warn you. All it has is a light that comes on too late.
jshare1 likes this.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 10:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Aurora, CO
Posts: 108
Drives: SCCA T1/3 and GT3 Z
Rep Power: 16
dkmura is on a distinguished road
Default

Setrab uses specialized welding equipment to seal the top and bottom sections with the internal baffles. What you are paying for is the precision craftsmanship of their products. I've used Setrab units for many Nissan racing applications and have been satisfied with their performance over the years.
dkmura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 03:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

While "You get what you pay for" isn't always true, it's a very good rule-of-thumb.

A product from a well-respected company such as Setrab will usually be made of high-quality materials that are assembled by craftsmen using the proper methods. After spending quite a bit of money designing the unit, they spend more testing it. Good is seldom cheap.

The cheaper units you find will often be just a poor imitation of somebody's else's design with inferior materials and construction.

You can find bargains but they are few and far between.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 02:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Rockford
Posts: 129
Drives: 370 Sport
Rep Power: 11
thompsontechs is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerribleONE View Post
Just remember you get what you pay for. If you are planning on tracking id go with the Setrab 34 row
I agree and an OP gauge is a must if you go this route. It saved my *** already, I didn't realize my Z was using oil when I went this route. I noticed a drop in pressure and checked the oil... sure enough, down 2! Yikes, now I check her ever other fill up. Why they have that stupid fkn clock there instead of an OP gauge is beyond me!


JT
thompsontechs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 02:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 215
Drives: 2014 370z black 6spd
Rep Power: 11
Dcocci is on a distinguished road
Default

I went through this with my oil cooler install. I said "eh, it won't make that much of a difference" and bought what Stillen offers as a base core for their coolers. It leaked like a siv, and I bought a Setrab core. Side by side, its just better quality. Its beefier and stronger. Setrab cores are used in racecars all over the world as well as Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc etc from the factory. Think of it as buying Megan coilovers vs Ohlins or whatever. Huge difference.
__________________
-08 Porsche Cayman S
Dcocci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2015, 01:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
batman_4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: McAllen Tx.
Posts: 1,038
Drives: '09 PW 370Z
Rep Power: 368
batman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond reputebatman_4 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

+1 on Setrab, just installed a 25 row and the cooler itself looked top notch.

Kinda off topic but, is running oil below 180 THAT bad? I know oil temps should be between 180-200 or so, but since installing my cooler it won't go past 180 even under spirited driving.
__________________

'09 6spd. Touring: Eibach / SPC / Motordyne / Berk / Z1 / Oneighty / Mines / SSR / Stillen / CFE
batman_4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2015, 02:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
Track Member
 
lhinojos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 559
Drives: 12 370z GM M6
Rep Power: 14
lhinojos has a spectacular aura aboutlhinojos has a spectacular aura about
Default

Just to update this I ended up going withe the setrab 34 row. Im in southern cali, so temps on daily driving are averaging 210ish which I know is high. Also the one I bought didn't come with a thermostatic plate so I ordered one directly from setrab(its a mocal 180 degree plate)

Which leads me to believe that you don't have one. IF you Daily the car, it is highly recommended that you run a thermostatic sandwich plate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by batman_4 View Post
+1 on Setrab, just installed a 25 row and the cooler itself looked top notch.

Kinda off topic but, is running oil below 180 THAT bad? I know oil temps should be between 180-200 or so, but since installing my cooler it won't go past 180 even under spirited driving.
lhinojos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2015, 02:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
Track Member
 
lhinojos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 559
Drives: 12 370z GM M6
Rep Power: 14
lhinojos has a spectacular aura aboutlhinojos has a spectacular aura about
Default

I also wanted to add that I picked up the Tanabe OP gauge thatll be going in on my next oil change. The cooler will go on in the second oil change that way I can get a gist of where my oil pressure should be at post cooler install.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thompsontechs View Post
I agree and an OP gauge is a must if you go this route. It saved my *** already, I didn't realize my Z was using oil when I went this route. I noticed a drop in pressure and checked the oil... sure enough, down 2! Yikes, now I check her ever other fill up. Why they have that stupid fkn clock there instead of an OP gauge is beyond me!


JT

Last edited by lhinojos; 08-07-2015 at 02:33 AM.
lhinojos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2015, 07:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
gomer_110's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Perrysburg, OH
Posts: 17,992
Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM
Rep Power: 36941
gomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond reputegomer_110 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman_4 View Post
+1 on Setrab, just installed a 25 row and the cooler itself looked top notch.

Kinda off topic but, is running oil below 180 THAT bad? I know oil temps should be between 180-200 or so, but since installing my cooler it won't go past 180 even under spirited driving.
Terrible no, not the greatest yes. Sounds like you need to make a block off plate to partial block the cooler. Plenty of threads here about them. Just search.
batman_4 likes this.
__________________
'11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions | Stillen | Motordyne | Uprev | CSF | Zspeed | Z1 Motorsports | AST | Swift | SPC | SPL | Whiteline | Hotchkis | Bride | Schroth | Robispec | Cusco | Nismo | Volk | Forgestar | Hoosier | RJM
'17 Titan Bone Stock
gomer_110 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2015, 10:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman_4 View Post
+1 on Setrab, just installed a 25 row and the cooler itself looked top notch.

Kinda off topic but, is running oil below 180 THAT bad? I know oil temps should be between 180-200 or so, but since installing my cooler it won't go past 180 even under spirited driving.
180 means 200 degrees, the temp with an oil cooler is the outlet temp of the oil cooler
batman_4 likes this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[FOR SALE] Oil Cooler with Setrab Core/Mocal Plate MattP725 Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 9 09-29-2012 11:49 PM
[FOR SALE] Setrab 19 row oil cooler core Z_ealot Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 25 12-16-2011 12:57 PM
[FOR SALE] 19 Row Setrab Oil Cooler Core kosstick Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 16 09-12-2011 12:42 AM
Greddy oil cooler core help needed zuperman 370 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 1 06-28-2011 08:08 AM
Stillen Larger core oil cooler? import111 Engine & Drivetrain 4 07-09-2009 01:08 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2