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GZ3 06-30-2015 08:53 AM

3rd gear 7at question
 
Is there anything i can do to rev out 3rd gear more on the 7AT? Once tuned, I might raise the rev limiter to 8k if it still makes power. Right now, third goes to 80 and I was looking for about 90-95. I havent seen any FD's that go below 3.3(stock 7AT) and suprisingly google was no help. PS idas about my 7th

thanks

DEpointfive0 06-30-2015 09:09 AM

Why?

And you don't want to raise the limiter if you intend on going past 7500 often. The oil pump will die and if you're on a turn you'll likely oil starve

GZ3 06-30-2015 09:15 AM

In my 5.0 I went from 3.73 to 3.31 to stay in the power band longer down the 1/4...even with then % decrease in acceleration I managed much better ET and trap. Guy were either doing 3.31 or 4.10. 4th in this 7AT is weak....

TerribleONE 06-30-2015 09:17 AM

An extra 500RPM's isn't going to get you 15mph in that gear. I'd leave it alone if I were you :twocents:

GZ3 06-30-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3243741)
An extra 500RPM's isn't going to get you 15mph in that gear. I'd leave it alone if I were you :twocents:

I agree, anyone heard of any FD?

GZ3 06-30-2015 12:36 PM

the current ratios for 1-2 arent too bad

ANMVQ 07-01-2015 03:12 PM

My third touches 95 :/

ANMVQ 07-01-2015 03:14 PM

you can try a 3.90 FD, Some guys go 4.08's but I think 3.90's for us auto guys. I'm trying to change both on mine. Still looking for a set for the front

GZ3 07-01-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3245273)
My third touches 95 :/

95?? Thats great! Whats your final drive? My 3rd tops at 80... Crap

Taylortoons 07-02-2015 05:18 AM

I agree the FD on the AT is lacking in the upper gears. I believe 4th is 1:1, which leaves 5-7 as three overdrives.

The 4.08 redefines the performance of our cars. I have tons of power and torque through all seven gears now. Upgrading the diff is a pricey mod, but a game changer in terms of power availability.

I don't track my car (or drive it daily) but my guess would be that I could get through the quarter in 4th or even 5th gear with all the available power the car offers.

Megan370z 07-02-2015 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Taylortoons (Post 3245612)
I agree the FD on the AT is lacking in the upper gears. I believe 4th is 1:1, which leaves 5-7 as three overdrives.

The 4.08 redefines the performance of our cars. I have tons of power and torque through all seven gears now. Upgrading the diff is a pricey mod, but a game changer in terms of power availability.

I don't track my car (or drive it daily) but my guess would be that I could get through the quarter in 4th or even 5th gear with all the available power the car offers.

no, 1:1 is still the 5th gear.

ANMVQ 07-02-2015 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3245442)
95?? Thats great! Whats your final drive? My 3rd tops at 80... Crap

my FD is 3.36 :( . Looking to go 3.90's but need to find fronts as well. Just saw that my front diff is a F160A, What the hell is that ! If I can find if the older Skylines use this maybe I can find gears. :)

GZ3 07-02-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylortoons (Post 3245612)
I agree the FD on the AT is lacking in the upper gears. I believe 4th is 1:1, which leaves 5-7 as three overdrives.

The 4.08 redefines the performance of our cars. I have tons of power and torque through all seven gears now. Upgrading the diff is a pricey mod, but a game changer in terms of power availability.

I don't track my car (or drive it daily) but my guess would be that I could get through the quarter in 4th or even 5th gear with all the available power the car offers.

I can see how 4.0 would help out in 7 speeds, by any chance do you know what your 1-2-3 gears top out at?

GZ3 07-02-2015 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3245620)
my FD is 3.36 :( . Looking to go 3.90's but need to find fronts as well. Just saw that my front diff is a F160A, What the hell is that ! If I can find if the older Skylines use this maybe I can find gears. :)

I wish my 3rd toped out like yours... Is the same 7at as in the g?

TerribleONE 07-02-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3246029)
I wish my 3rd toped out like yours... Is the same 7at as in the g?

No 7AT back then, just the 5AT.

ANMVQ 07-02-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3246029)
I wish my 3rd toped out like yours... Is the same 7at as in the g?

Yes it is, but I'm not stock :)

GZ3 07-02-2015 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3246038)
No 7AT back then, just the 5AT.

Ahh ok thanks

GZ3 07-02-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3246132)
Yes it is, but I'm not stock :)

So if we have the same motor and tranny and you have shorter gears, how are you reving 3rd to 95?:confused:

warpeacelove 07-02-2015 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3245273)
My third touches 95 :/

It's called getting Tuned. :-)

ANMVQ 07-02-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3246135)
So if we have the same motor and tranny and you have shorter gears, how are you reving 3rd to 95?:confused:

For what said, making more power :driving:. I'm trapping 105 MPH at track. 3800 LBS AWD sedan :)

GZ3 07-02-2015 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3246192)
It's called getting Tuned. :-)

oh i know all about tuning, but hes bolt ons...not built (from the sig anyway)....if at 7500k my 3rd is at 80....then how does a tune mechanically overide the physics of gearing? He would have to be redlining at like 10k plus.....UNLESS im missing something....LOL im confused

GZ3 07-02-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3246253)
For what said, making more power :driving:. I'm trapping 105 MPH at track. 3800 LBS AWD sedan :)

when I was making 380rwhp and when i was making 445rwhp my 3rd gear always toped out at what my final drive allowed

jwick 07-02-2015 01:18 PM

Power has no impact on gearing/speed. All it's going to do it accelerate you there faster.

I'm making 510whp over the 262whp when it was stock and all my gears/speed are identical to the day I drove it off the lot. Unless you change FD gearing or RPMs it'll be the same for every one else.

GZ3 07-02-2015 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3246367)
Power has no impact on gearing/speed. All it's going to do it accelerate you there faster.

I'm making 510whp over the 262whp when it was stock and all my gears/speed are identical to the day I drove it off the lot. Unless you change FD gearing or RPMs it'll be the same for every one else.

Yup thats excatly what im saying...


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