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phunk 05-26-2015 09:13 PM

CJM Oil Pan
 
POST UPDATED 9/22/15 TO REFLECT PRODUCTION PART

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AVAILABILITY: Currently in stock (second batch) and usually will be from here forward. Contact for details regarding specific color/finish availability.

The billet aluminum CJM Active Baffle Oil Pan for the (07-08) 350z & (09+) 370z was constructed to improve on the lubrication system of your VQ engine.

Integrated within the pan is a separated sump area surrounding the oil pump pickup. Active 1-way trap doors allow engine oil to easily enter the sump area yet greatly slow its departure during high lateral-G maneuvers. Vertical longitudinal baffles guide oil returning from the rear of the upper pan into the sump area.

Improvements to oil control will contribute to longer engine bearing and oil pump life by reducing the tendency for oil pickup starvation during aggressive driving sessions.

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Oil capacity is increased over the original pan roughly 0.5 quarts by increasing the sump depth (the most effective way to increase capacity while adding additional fluid control and starvation protection). Overall depth was intentionally left above the front suspension cross-member to keep the oil pan within the factory lower engine shroud and out of harm's way from road debris. The additional oil capacity will contribute to stabilizing oil temperatures and increase oil quality life between changes. To take advantage of the extra depth, an oil pump pickup spacer and extended hardware is included with each pan.

Additional surface area is added to the lower side of the pan to aid in air-cooling via a heat-sink effect.

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The drain plug location was moved to the rear bottom of the pan to improve oil draining when the front of the vehicle is lifted on jack-stands. A low-profile drain plug is included (-6AN threads, 9/16-18) with 3 reusable high quality bonded o-ring drain plug washers.

Each CJM billet oil pan includes -10AN port fittings on the left and right sides. These ports are mostly intended for turbo oil drains. The pan can be ordered with plugs or -10AN fittings for these ports.

Stainless steel cap screws and washers are included to secure the oil pan to your engine.

First Batch PRE-SALE (CLOSED):

1: BGTV8
2: cancel
3: ENT-Z
4: Spooler
5: DR_
6: Japanjay
7: Flojo
8: Chuck33079
9: scth83
10: cdoxp800
11: LIL_G13
12: nismo13807
13: Zauskycop
14: andy_meng1024
15: andy_meng1024
16: SurfDog
17: jrb55gh
18: Scott@Synergy
19: jwick
20: cancel
21: andy_meng1024
22: andy_meng1024
23: derraj06
24: patabq
25: ban25

Thanks!!!

Elmo370z 05-26-2015 09:34 PM

Will work with z1's undertray?

phunk 05-26-2015 09:40 PM

This oil pan sits higher than the crossmember, so unless an undertray intentionally raises up higher than the crossmember, they will fit together.

Chuy 05-26-2015 09:42 PM

It sits right above the cross member so...Since the under tray attaches to the cross member, I bet it would

Elmo370z 05-26-2015 09:56 PM

I'm leaving work soon seeing if this will fit into my budget

BGTV8 05-26-2015 10:53 PM

I am in ... refer PM on oil pickup ...

Rangerz 05-26-2015 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3209947)
I am in ... refer PM on oil pickup ...

:iagree:

Is a spacer included for the pickup? Very nice job Charles looks great.:tup:

andy_meng1024 05-26-2015 11:03 PM

How much oil does it hold? I have a few friends here in Taiwan that want it.

FL 4Motion 05-26-2015 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3209947)
I am in ... refer PM on oil pickup ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 3209952)
:iagree:

Is a spacer included for the pickup? Very nice job Charles looks great.:tup:

In for one as well. Also would like to know if youre extending the oil pickup.

phunk 05-27-2015 12:52 AM

Sorry for slow responses today has been a long one! Any time I get batches back from the anodizer, the rest of the day is crazy. Also had to get another big batch of parts ready to drop off during the pickup. I almost dropped off this pan! But I think I'll leave it pretty for a while longer. I was thinking maybe like an olive green color or something out of the ordinary black and blue I always do.

I will hopefully have oil capacity increase measurements this week. As soon as I get my hands on a stock pan to measure its displacement I will know the difference/increase.

As for extending the oil pickup, yes! That is another reason I need to pick up a stock pan. I want to lower it to have the same vertical clearance over the floor as stock.

BGTV8 05-27-2015 01:01 AM

Anodize it black - better heat dissipation ....

Mike 05-27-2015 01:43 AM

I'm in, but i want it raw. would rather clearcoat it with powder so it stays pretty, even if only me and Z1 will ever see it

phunk 05-27-2015 02:00 AM

Excellent! I will let each buyer decide if they want it straight from the CNC or anodized. I figured most people will want such a large billet part to still look billet and it really is so cool to handle and look at. I'll probably make another for myself to just keep around.

For the 6 screws securing the baffle lid, I was figuring on providing pre-drilled safety wire screws for anyone who wants to use stainless wire on them as an added security. I was thinking of having the laser put a U notch about 1/2" from each one to hook the wire around.

BGTV8 05-27-2015 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3209997)
Excellent! I will let each buyer decide if they want it straight from the CNC or anodized. I figured most people will want such a large billet part to still look billet and it really is so cool to handle and look at. I'll probably make another for myself to just keep around.

For the 6 screws securing the baffle lid, I was figuring on providing pre-drilled safety wire screws for anyone who wants to use stainless wire on them as an added security. I was thinking of having the laser put a U notch about 1/2" from each one to hook the wire around.

Charles - I would drill each fastener and lock-wire them together in a daisy-chain - I do this in several places on my race-car for security - implies you have (or have access to) lock-wire pliers (which I do).

Japanjay 05-27-2015 08:23 PM

So much want, is this going to be something that can be ordered on an individual basis? Car is about to get the 2015 nismo conversion painted and blended.

ENT-Z 05-27-2015 08:37 PM

This is great! I have the JWT spacer currently since I have turbo lines plumbed in there. I wish I didn't have to re drill this one. Any chance of having it predrilled prior to shipment? I would be interested in this pan plus the billet gears.

phunk 05-27-2015 08:51 PM

In a week or two we will compile the list of who all is *IN* and I will then propose the manufacturing schedule and take material only deposits. I will probably produce 3-4 more than what is pre-ordered to keep around for late arrivals.

phunk 05-27-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 3210920)
This is great! I have the JWT spacer currently since I have turbo lines plumbed in there. I wish I didn't have to re drill this one. Any chance of having it predrilled prior to shipment? I would be interested in this pan plus the billet gears.

Yes I would be willing to CNC the ports for a rather small labor charge. (It will entail mounting in the CNC from positions otherwise unnecessary)

phunk 05-27-2015 08:56 PM

Well actually, maybe I should consider just making it part of the standard process. I dont know. Generally I would prefer they not be there if I dont need them... but I am thinking that since there are moving parts in there, perhaps some big ole -10 ports would be nice to have as little windows to look in and check on things every few oil changes? I cant imagine what to see, but I would look anyway LOL

pokeyl 05-27-2015 09:21 PM

This is art, but has anyone built a baffle for the stock pan. I may be able to afford that. I use to have access to NC mills. I miss them.

Rusty 05-27-2015 10:48 PM

phunk, I TOLD you that there would be interest in the pan. And the price. That's damn good.:tup: The AM Perf. pan sold for $1200 new. Used ones was going for $500+ IF you could find one.

Japanjay 05-27-2015 11:03 PM

So how much are you talking when referencing material costs? I could probably do this right now then. Pay for the material right now and upon completion pay for the remainder? I would need a hard "deposit/material" price to run by the boss lady.

Spooler 05-27-2015 11:06 PM

I think I am in. How did you deal with the sealing surface at the pan lip? Did you notch out a groove for the silicon sealant for a better seal? This is something Nissan has always done on timing covers and 2-piece oil pans.

DR_ 05-27-2015 11:15 PM

In for this.

phunk 05-28-2015 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 3211046)
So how much are you talking when referencing material costs? I could probably do this right now then. Pay for the material right now and upon completion pay for the remainder? I would need a hard "deposit/material" price to run by the boss lady.

I would probably just round it out to $100 even. Like when I did this with the road race pumps, I would set a sizable amount of time to pay off the part after production so people can fit it into the budget without forcing it through. I would probably hold the pan up to 12 weeks after production with the deposit.

phunk 05-28-2015 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3211049)
I think I am in. How did you deal with the sealing surface at the pan lip? Did you notch out a groove for the silicon sealant for a better seal? This is something Nissan has always done on timing covers and 2-piece oil pans.

I considered doing that, but I didn't do it. But I sure can if you like that! I can take the same ball cutter that worked in the heat sinking surface on the bottom, and run it a little less deep to create a valley inbetween the bolts.

Another thing I plan to add to the production pan is a recess in the flange for pounding in a pry tool for removal without banging up visible surfaces. I also thought about possible a threaded hole or two to threads bolts into that push on the upper pan to ease later separation.

phunk 05-28-2015 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3211039)
phunk, I TOLD you that there would be interest in the pan. And the price. That's damn good.:tup: The AM Perf. pan sold for $1200 new. Used ones was going for $500+ IF you could find one.

Thanks for the text message emotion support! From what I found on the forum, I think AM only made 4 pans for customers

Also thanks to FL 4motion for reminding me to make this last week. I had the material sitting around forever.

Spooler 05-28-2015 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3211074)
I considered doing that, but I didn't do it. But I sure can if you like that! I can take the same ball cutter that worked in the heat sinking surface on the bottom, and run it a little less deep to create a valley inbetween the bolts.

Another thing I plan to add to the production pan is a recess in the flange for pounding in a pry tool for removal without banging up visible surfaces. I also thought about possible a threaded hole or two to threads bolts into that push on the upper pan to ease later separation.


Yes, I would like that. I also like the idea of at least 2 pry points to get the pan off if needed without damaging it.

Japanjay 05-28-2015 08:37 AM

Ready to send money. Pm me when you are ready.

Elmo370z 05-28-2015 12:08 PM

Far as supporting mods go, Is this pan more for people who intend to track their Z's at anything above 7,500 rpms?

Rusty 05-28-2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3211082)
Thanks for the text message emotion support! From what I found on the forum, I think AM only made 4 pans for customers

Also thanks to FL 4motion for reminding me to make this last week. I had the material sitting around forever.

When you have another emotion break down. Feel free to text me. :D

AM made about 20 pans. Think 8 was for the race cars, and the rest was sold to the public. Maybe 6 forum members have one.

Zauskycop 05-28-2015 10:59 PM

It's beautiful Phunk...expect a call.

Tracy Ramsey

phunk 05-28-2015 11:03 PM

Information moved to first post

FL 4Motion 05-29-2015 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3211592)
Far as supporting mods go, Is this pan more for people who intend to track their Z's at anything above 7,500 rpms?

this pan prevents oil starvation in sustained hi g turns on the track. It helps lower the chance your engine goes boom. It also prevents oil sloshing to and fro as you zip thru the shorter back to back turns.

Felix 808 05-29-2015 01:03 AM

Nicely done Phunk. :tup:

Spooler 05-29-2015 06:33 AM

No maybe, I am in.

Spooler 05-29-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3212218)
this pan prevents oil starvation in sustained hi g turns on the track. It helps lower the chance your engine goes boom. It also prevents oil sloshing to and fro as you zip thru the shorter back to back turns.

Tail of the Dragon......at 7,000rpms.:eekdance: While your passenger does this :barf: and you don't want to do that because the motor went pop.

jwick 05-29-2015 02:24 PM

Damn you Charles. Every time I think I've gotten the built motor fund needs figured out you go and release something else I 'need' :ugh2:

jwick 05-29-2015 02:42 PM

Charles did you ever determine the increase in oil capacity of the new pan. I'd be interested in one but I'm running the Wolf pan spacer. I don't want to loose too much oil capacity by going to this pan.

phunk 05-29-2015 02:51 PM

Not yet, I still have to find someone local with a pan. There is a shop about a hour away that probably has one but I havent had time to get up there yet. If the spacer doesnt put your pan past the crossmember, you wont lose anything. Even at the same depth this pan will hold more due to its straight walls to the floor opposed to large radius.


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