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Old 05-30-2015, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Another, also one shown in black to give an idea of what that would look like.
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question.. i was comparing this pan vs the a.m. pan and it seems like the baffle on the a.m. sticks above the pan a inch or so..how is that compare to your baffle that is flush or a little lower then the pan itself? cause wouldnt a taller baffle trap more oil and gives it a better insurance?
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question.. i was comparing this pan vs the a.m. pan and it seems like the baffle on the a.m. sticks above the pan a inch or so..how is that compare to your baffle that is flush or a little lower then the pan itself? cause wouldnt a taller baffle trap more oil and gives it a better insurance?
Yes A.M had more aggressive baffling by going up taller and thus deeper sump area. Going more aggressive on the baffling like that can increase effectiveness as long as you know for certain its not getting in the way of oil circulation.

I designed my pan to accommodate a deeper top baffle that I might make in the future pending demand, interest, and time. If I build one, it will be available to anyone with this pan as a bolt-in part.
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I wasnt sure how much I liked that all oil returning to the sump area from the rear of the engine had to make it through the baffle system. Thats why my top baffle plate doesnt even have rear coverage, I like the idea of that oil being able to roll right into the pickup area. But without some small cameras hiding in the pan to watch what is happening, its difficult to visualize all the circulation in your head. I figured that a conservative baffle system for some protection in rapid lateral changes would be a safer approach than trying to manage and control every last drop of oil in a basic wet sump system.
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Looks like I know what I'm doing next winter... Oil pan upgrade, fuel system upgrade, the next thing phunk makes upgrade...

After all the modding I did this year, Mrs.Force is going to sh!t a brick when she finds out I already started this winters mod list. We don't even have the car back from SoCal yet
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I see a problem with your design, it looks like the oil return from the turbos (the adapters on the side) is pointing straight at the check valves, the oil stream will hit it and keep it open making ur design useless.

I could be wrong.
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I see a problem with your design, it looks like the oil return from the turbos (the adapters on the side) is pointing straight at the check valves, the oil stream will hit it and keep it open making ur design useless.
You mean that oil would be going through the baffles in the direction we want it to? Doesnt bother me one bit.
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You mean that oil would be going through the baffles in the direction we want it to? Doesnt bother me one bit.

Yes, well if ur fine with it then i guess am the only one that isnt.
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Yes, well if ur fine with it then i guess am the only one that isnt.
The point of the baffles is to allow oil to travel towards the pickup. Oil flow in that direction is good. If the turbo drains were pushing oil in that direction, that would be a positive as it would provide oil flow in the direction we want it, and it would create a venturi effect promoting additional oil to flow in this direction.

When you want the baffles to close when turning, g-loads will close the baffles from the weight of oil pressing on them. So it wouldnt make a difference when it matters.

Although, the reality of it is that the turbo return oil is not high velocity. It is generally pretty aerated low velocity oil and probably couldnt push the baffles open even if the car was sitting stationary.

So while I dont agree with your concern at all, your concern does make me realize an alternate consideration. Maybe I will try and baffle the return area some to increase oil residency in the turbo return oil for the sake of improved aeration disposal.
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The point of the baffles is to allow oil to travel towards the pickup. Oil flow in that direction is good. If the turbo drains were pushing oil in that direction, that would be a positive as it would provide oil flow in the direction we want it, and it would create a venturi effect promoting additional oil to flow in this direction.

When you want the baffles to close when turning, g-loads will close the baffles from the weight of oil pressing on them. So it wouldnt make a difference when it matters.

Although, the reality of it is that the turbo return oil is not high velocity. It is generally pretty aerated low velocity oil and probably couldnt push the baffles open even if the car was sitting stationary.

So while I dont agree with your concern at all, your concern does make me realize an alternate consideration. Maybe I will try and baffle the return area some to increase oil residency in the turbo return oil for the sake of improved aeration disposal.
Well in my line of work, it is a common practice if you see a problem say something, the worst thing that can happen is your wrong, i personally would change the output direction to cause less problems.

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if you really want the outside nismo red with bare exposed parts, I can powdercoat it wrinkle red and then you can sand the ribs back to silver. But, noone is ever going to see it.
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if you really want the outside nismo red with bare exposed parts, I can powdercoat it wrinkle red and then you can sand the ribs back to silver. But, noone is ever going to see it.
LOL, we think alike. That is what I was going to do with it and then clear over it. Bump, Bump,,,, Nismo.


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LOL, we think alike. That is what I was going to do with it and then clear over it.
If you do decide you want to make it 2-tone like that by painting or powder coating and then sanding, let me know because you would want it un-anodized to start with. You wont want to have to sand through anodizing, its much harder than the aluminum and soaks into the surface as well. It would be a nightmare to sand through it!
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If you do decide you want to make it 2-tone like that by painting or powder coating and then sanding, let me know because you would want it un-anodized to start with. You wont want to have to sand through anodizing, its much harder than the aluminum and soaks into the surface as well. It would be a nightmare to sand through it!
Ah, just make it Nismo red the best you can. I dare to be different.
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