Over-Cooling Solutions

semtex · 11-24-2009, 01:08 PM

Okay, I've been following this thread and I can't decide whether or not I need to be worried about this overcooling problem as it pertains to my individual situation, so I'd like some input/opinions from you guys. Let me explain my circumstances. I work from home full time. The only regular driving I do is to the gym 4 or 5 times a week at 5 in the morning. It takes me about 15 minutes to get there, and it takes about 13 minutes for my oil to get up to 180. So basically, I spend my whole drive getting my oil up to 180, then I shut down. Repeat when it's time to go home afterwards. Other than this, in the course of any given week I might make several quick runs to the grocery store or whatever, and the temps never get up to 180. Do I have anything to worry about? Is my engine at elevated risk for condensation and sludge formation due to what I've described above? Once in a while I'll need to go on an extended trip. Like last week I drove across town over to Forged to get my Uprev rom updated, which was a 45 mile trip each way on Interstates. Even then, my oil stayed mostly just a few degrees over 180. I think the max I saw was 210, and for only a brief period of time. FYI, I only got around to installing my cooler a few weeks ago, after seasonal temps already started to drop, so I have no summertime baseline. Any input would be appreciated.

ResIpsa · 11-24-2009, 01:34 PM

Wow. I thought this thread died.

Update: The Mocal 140 degree sandwich plate just does not allow enough heat to get my oil temps up.

However, blocking the air flow (with tape or otherwise) really works. I have been playing with different solutions to cleanly cover the front grill. I really would like a solution that 1) goes on and off easily, and 2) looks good.

Unfortunately, the shape of the grill makes it difficult to fabricate a cover. And placing a metal plate over the cooler will probably require taking the front cover off. This is a real pain in the a$$ since (here in Northern Virginia) the temps are 40 degrees one day and 70 the next.

But don't risk engine damage by running around with 160 degree temps. If all else fails, just get out the painters tape and tape it up.

Put your vanity aside, your engine will thank you.

Modshack · 11-24-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Okay, I've been following this thread and I can't decide whether or not I need to be worried about this overcooling problem as it pertains to my individual situation, .

Which Setrab cooler? Your solution for this use may be to go with a smaller Core.....

semtex · 11-24-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Which Setrab cooler? Your solution for this use may be to go with a smaller Core.....

The standard street-sized one from Stillen. It's their kit, actually, except I tossed their sandwich plate and used the Mocal 180. I actually just went out to drop off a prescription and got it up to 205. The difference is that it's 60 degrees out right now, and only about 40 at 5am when I go to the gym!

ChrisSlicks · 11-24-2009, 04:16 PM

With the average temps around here in the morning being in the 40's I'm just getting to work when the temp hits 180. On the weekends I take it out for some exercise and try to get the temp to 220. I don't think the low temps day to day are a huge problem as long as you can get the temps up once in a while to burn off any water vapor that may have collected.

Modshack · 11-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

With the average temps around here in the morning being in the 40's I'm just getting to work when the temp hits 180. On the weekends I take it out for some exercise and try to get the temp to 220. I don't think the low temps day to day are a huge problem as long as you can get the temps up once in a while to burn off any water vapor that may have collected.

ChrisSlicks · 11-24-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

The standard street-sized one from Stillen. It's their kit, actually, except I tossed their sandwich plate and used the Mocal 180. I actually just went out to drop off a prescription and got it up to 205. The difference is that it's 60 degrees out right now, and only about 40 at 5am when I go to the gym!

Actually on a side note, how much room would you say you have inbetween the Stillen Setrab core and the Gen3 intakes? Trying to determine if there is room for the larger Setrab 34-row and the intake.

semtex · 11-24-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Actually on a side note, how much room would you say you have inbetween the Stillen Setrab core and the Gen3 intakes? Trying to determine if there is room for the larger Setrab 34-row and the intake.

Okay, see this pic:

The top of my core sits right below the silver tow hook loop thingy. That should give you an idea.

Modshack · 11-24-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Okay, see this pic:

The top of my core sits right below the silver tow hook loop thingy. That should give you an idea.

Not a conflict IMO..

ChrisSlicks · 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

The top of my core sits right below the silver tow hook loop thingy. That should give you an idea.

The 34-row will come up to just below the front crash bar, so looks like it should just fit.

+rep

semtex · 11-24-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The 34-row will come up to just below the front crash bar, so looks like it should just fit.

+rep

Hmm...34-row? Have you taken a look at MightBobo's DIY on the 25-row? DIY: Stillen 25-row Oil Cooler
I mention this because he discovered the 25-row was actually too big and required some cutting on one of the corners! (My street-version is only 19-row.)

This pic is from his thread:

11-24-2009, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Okay, I've been following this thread and I can't decide whether or not I need to be worried about this overcooling problem as it pertains to my individual situation, so I'd like some input/opinions from you guys. Let me explain my circumstances. I work from home full time. The only regular driving I do is to the gym 4 or 5 times a week at 5 in the morning. It takes me about 15 minutes to get there, and it takes about 13 minutes for my oil to get up to 180. So basically, I spend my whole drive getting my oil up to 180, then I shut down. Repeat when it's time to go home afterwards. Other than this, in the course of any given week I might make several quick runs to the grocery store or whatever, and the temps never get up to 180. Do I have anything to worry about? Is my engine at elevated risk for condensation and sludge formation due to what I've described above? Once in a while I'll need to go on an extended trip. Like last week I drove across town over to Forged to get my Uprev rom updated, which was a 45 mile trip each way on Interstates. Even then, my oil stayed mostly just a few degrees over 180. I think the max I saw was 210, and for only a brief period of time. FYI, I only got around to installing my cooler a few weeks ago, after seasonal temps already started to drop, so I have no summertime baseline. Any input would be appreciated. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

11-24-2009, 01:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 339	Wow. I thought this thread died. Update: The Mocal 140 degree sandwich plate just does not allow enough heat to get my oil temps up. However, blocking the air flow (with tape or otherwise) really works. I have been playing with different solutions to cleanly cover the front grill. I really would like a solution that 1) goes on and off easily, and 2) looks good. Unfortunately, the shape of the grill makes it difficult to fabricate a cover. And placing a metal plate over the cooler will probably require taking the front cover off. This is a real pain in the a$$ since (here in Northern Virginia) the temps are 40 degrees one day and 70 the next. But don't risk engine damage by running around with 160 degree temps. If all else fails, just get out the painters tape and tape it up. Put your vanity aside, your engine will thank you. __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

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11-24-2009, 04:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	With the average temps around here in the morning being in the 40's I'm just getting to work when the temp hits 180. On the weekends I take it out for some exercise and try to get the temp to 220. I don't think the low temps day to day are a huge problem as long as you can get the temps up once in a while to burn off any water vapor that may have collected.