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cobra 03-10-2015 11:55 AM

New car, battery already half dead ???
 
:confused::wtf:One morning it was really cold outside -4 F which is the equivalent of -20 C here in Canada, it was cold, and my car was inside the garage having spent the week end there without moving, no lights left on really nothing abnormal.
I had a hard time cranking the engine, took me 5 times to get it going, no juice to turn the engine like a dead battery so finally I got it going and went to the dealer after my shift to get it checked and they told me that my almost year old battery was half dead but since it passes the Nissan criteria just borderline they couldn't replace it. What a bummer, a 2014 with a **** battery.
I called Nissan and they said same B.S., sorry sir it meets the borderline NISSAN criteria so now I have to buy a new battery.
Anybody had this problem ? That question is probably for the guys who drive their car in the sub zero temperatures !!

DEpointfive0 03-10-2015 11:57 AM

Stuff fails, but I'm amazed they didn't warranty anything out... I thought the battery was covered in the 3/36

kenchan 03-10-2015 11:59 AM

how long does the starter crank when you press the button? 5sec?

Spooler 03-10-2015 12:10 PM

Battery, 12month/12,000 miles factory warranty the last I remember. Been a while though.

DOOMMONKEY777 03-10-2015 12:16 PM

My 2010 still cranks at 3F tested this year, no prob here. Ur car might be an 2009.

cobra 03-10-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 3133486)
Stuff fails, but I'm amazed they didn't warranty anything out... I thought the battery was covered in the 3/36

It is under warranty but when they tested it they said it was good enough to past their criteria, Is was border line good enough on their gauge. Honestly it's not a full good battery, they should have replace it. Now I can't trust it, I'll have to buy another one just for peace of mind.

cobra 03-10-2015 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3133492)
how long does the starter crank when you press the button? 5sec?

Starter was cranking no problem but you could tell that the motor wasn't turning very fast due to the lack of CCA. I never had a problem like this with any other cars even after 5 years old battery, just a bad battery from the supplier but Nissan should have replaced it, especially when you pay a lot of money for a car like this, they are not cheap here in Canada !

cobra 03-10-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3133508)
My 2010 still cranks at 3F tested this year, no prob here. Ur car might be an 2009.

No it's a 2014 bought brand new still smell new !

kenchan 03-10-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cobra (Post 3133525)
Starter was cranking no problem but you could tell that the motor wasn't turning very fast due to the lack of CCA. I never had a problem like this with any other cars even after 5 years old battery, just a bad battery from the supplier but Nissan should have replaced it, especially when you pay a lot of money for a car like this, they are not cheap here in Canada !

how long is your daily drive? might be too short to charge the battery... or did you have a remote stater, alarm, or stereo installed?

cobra 03-10-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3133545)
how long is your daily drive? might be too short to charge the battery... or did you have a remote stater, alarm, or stereo installed?

I do 22 miles one way and have no other gadgets than the stock equipment in the car. I had a few new cars like two Camry's, Mini, Veloster, doing the same trip and it never happened.

kenchan 03-10-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cobra (Post 3133597)
I do 22 miles one way and have no other gadgets than the stock equipment in the car. I had a few new cars like two Camry's, Mini, Veloster, doing the same trip and it never happened.

i c. 22 miles is plenty. hummm.. hope your new battery holds up.


when your engine is running wat does your voltmeter say? 14v+?

TreeSemdyZee 03-10-2015 02:10 PM

Tip: Turn on your headlights for a little bit before cranking when it's real cold.

Amazing how Nissan has a borderline rating UNLESS you're out of warranty, then they want to sell you one of their crap batteries.

kenchan 03-10-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3133676)
Tip: Turn on your headlights for a little bit before cranking when it's real cold.

to really kill it? :ugh:

TreeSemdyZee 03-10-2015 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3133692)
to really kill it? :ugh:

No. It gets the battery "warmed up". Gets the chemical reaction going so there is a better chance of getting a better crank.

kenchan 03-10-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3133885)
No. It gets the battery "warmed up". Gets the chemical reaction going so there is a better chance of getting a better crank.

:icon17:

id rather be using the starter to 'warm up' the battery if first try doesnt turn over.
honestly draining the capacity is risky business on a very cold day. you only get a few tries to start the car.

a lot of folks crank too short and kill the starter and try a re-attempt while it is better to just keep cranking it for up to 10sec or so in one shot. (i suppose it will 'warm up' the battery too while doing so)

not sure how long the cranking duration is on the Z since it's a push-start..and i dont drive the z in the winter. :confused:


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