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chri$370z 10-14-2009 12:11 PM

My 370z engine bites the dust
 
Hello the370z.com. My 370z touring edition started to stop accelerating when i rev at 3000 then i had shift and it did in 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, gear. So i took it to Power Nissan Torrance, CA. Nissan to get it checked out and Nissan said my car car didnt have enough oil. Nissan drained all the oil out the engine and little metal flakes was in the pan. Nissan came to a conclusion and said my engine was burning oil to fast which made the engine overheated and said thats what damage the engine. They had to replace the whole engine. I only had 2100 miles! Have happen to anyone? :wtf:

RCZ 10-14-2009 12:16 PM

Niiice you got a new engine ;)

Denny McLain 10-14-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chri$370z (Post 236181)
hello the370z.com. My 370z touring edition started to stop accelerating when i rev at 3000 then i had shift and it did in 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, gear. So i took it to power nissan torrance, ca. Nissan to get it checked out and nissan said my car car didnt have enough oil. Nissan drained all the oil out the engine and little metal flakes was in the pan. Nissan came to a conclusion and said my engine was burning oil to fast which made the engine overheated and said thats what damage the engine. They had to replace the whole engine. I only had 2100 miles! Have happen to anyone? :wtf:

wow!

kannibul 10-14-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chri$370z (Post 236181)
Hello the370z.com. My 370z touring edition started to stop accelerating when i rev at 3000 then i had shift and it did in 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, gear. So i took it to Power Nissan Torrance, CA. Nissan to get it checked out and Nissan said my car car didnt have enough oil. Nissan drained all the oil out the engine and little metal flakes was in the pan. Nissan came to a conclusion and said my engine was burning oil to fast which made the engine overheated and said thats what damage the engine. They had to replace the whole engine. I only had 2100 miles! Have happen to anyone? :wtf:

I think one or two people on here have had similar stories.

When was your car manufactured? (sticker in the door)

Solus 10-14-2009 12:46 PM

You need to check the oil in these on a very very regular basis...

John@Z1 10-14-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chri$370z (Post 236181)
Hello the370z.com. My 370z touring edition started to stop accelerating when i rev at 3000 then i had shift and it did in 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, gear. So i took it to Power Nissan Torrance, CA. Nissan to get it checked out and Nissan said my car car didnt have enough oil. Nissan drained all the oil out the engine and little metal flakes was in the pan. Nissan came to a conclusion and said my engine was burning oil to fast which made the engine overheated and said thats what damage the engine. They had to replace the whole engine. I only had 2100 miles! Have happen to anyone? :wtf:


Congrats! Nissan gave you a new engine with no hassle. Very good to hear.

huff442 10-14-2009 02:38 PM

Mine used a quart of oil in the first 1500 miles. You have to watch the oil level REAL close.

Technik330 10-14-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by huff442 (Post 236399)
Mine used a quart of oil in the first 1500 miles. You have to watch the oil level REAL close.

Isn't anyone concerned about this? A quart in 1,500 miles? :confused:

chuckd05 10-14-2009 03:25 PM

someone local to me had theirs go at 3100 miles, it was replaced with no hassle as well

Modshack 10-14-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330 (Post 236420)
Isn't anyone concerned about this? A quart in 1,500 miles? :confused:

You don't understand...This was a catastrophic failure of a part...It probably wasn't simple excessive oil usage that you could keep track of . Same thing happened to Lou Fusz's car here.
A seal went or something that literally pumped the entire oil supply through the engine in a real short period of time (minutes in Lou's case if I'm not mistaken).

Nissan replaced his engine as well. Stuff happens.

semtex 10-14-2009 03:56 PM

:iagree:

A quart of oil in 1500 miles is an aberration, not the norm. I only used a half quart after my first 3000 miles. Having said that, I do agree that it's a good idea to check your oil level regularly, especially during the early mileage when everything is still breaking in.

Technik330 10-14-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 236515)
You don't understand...This was a catastrophic failure of a part...It probably wasn't simple excessive oil usage that you could keep track of . Same thing happened to Lou Fusz's car here.
A seal went or something that literally pumped the entire oil supply through the engine in a real short period of time (minutes in Lou's case if I'm not mistaken).

Nissan replaced his engine as well. Stuff happens.

I guess not, do you have more info on the other car you mentioned?

Thanks,

Denny McLain 10-14-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 236515)
You don't understand...This was a catastrophic failure of a part...It probably wasn't simple excessive oil usage that you could keep track of . Same thing happened to Lou Fusz's car here.
A seal went or something that literally pumped the entire oil supply through the engine in a real short period of time (minutes in Lou's case if I'm not mistaken).

Nissan replaced his engine as well. Stuff happens.

Sure it throws up a red flag for Nissan and they will get it handled, but....... we are talking two separate significant issues.

By no means heard of two cars doing this from such a small amount of these on the road. Someone in Chicago said they had never seen another 370 on the road. Except for sitting in a dealership, can count the number seen in person on one hand (3) and live in a fairly affluent area. (not me.....the area )

A quart of oil in 1,500 miles in a new car? Got to be upfront...... Would personally have never thought to check the oil level that often on a new car. Never had to and never ever seen my wife even open a car's hood.

Regardless if the dealer fixes them or not, it's a real hassle. The last dealership rental car I had was pretty beat up and smelled like dog pee. Not that I have an image to keep up, just don't care to drive a pee smelling rental beater over a new Z.

Modshack 10-14-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330 (Post 236420)
Isn't anyone concerned about this? A quart in 1,500 miles? :confused:

Nissan will not even start to get concerned and run consumption tests until your burn rate drops below a quart per 1000 miles. 1 quart per 1500 is nothing to really worry about in the first few thousand miles. Good chance this will drop to nothing (as others have) once break in (5000 miles) is achieved..

XwChriswX 10-14-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 236550)
:iagree:

A quart of oil in 1500 miles is an aberration, not the norm. I only used a half quart after my first 3000 miles. Having said that, I do agree that it's a good idea to check your oil level regularly, especially during the early mileage when everything is still breaking in.

What is the brand that comes pre loaded in the engine so I can buy a quart or two when I get it to keep it topped off until I can get it swapped out?

Technik330 10-14-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 236644)
Nissan will not even start to get concerned and run consumption tests until your burn rate drops below a quart per 1000 miles. 1 quart per 1500 is nothing to worry about. Good chance this will drop to nothing (as others have) once break in (5000 miles) is achieved..


Awesome, I appreciate the information. Thanks :tup:

semtex 10-14-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 236647)
What is the brand that comes pre loaded in the engine so I can buy a quart or two when I get it to keep it topped off until I can get it swapped out?

Nissan Ester Oil, I would presume, as that's the recommended oil in the manual.

Modshack 10-14-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 236675)
Nissan Ester Oil, I would presume, as that's the recommended oil in the manual.

Though no one's ever verified this. The manual says a "high quality oil" from the factory. I really doubt it's Esther oil as the cost over 10's of thousands of cars would be astronomical..

semtex 10-14-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 236682)
Though no one's ever verified this. The manual says a "high quality oil" from the factory. I really doubt it's Esther oil as the cost over 10's of thousands of cars would be astronomical..

I doubt Nissan has to pay the same amount that they're charging their own customers for the stuff; they probably get it for pennies on the dollar. But you're right about it being unverified, in any case.

kevr6 10-14-2009 07:59 PM

This is well within the Lemon Law act. He can ask for a new car all together!! I would! (Not sure if he's doing that, long a$$ thread)
Worth it to call a lawyer!!
I've had, on occasion, major issues with new Audis (work at a dealership) and those customers who demanded another vehicles did got one!! Sometimes with more options!
I wouldn't want my new car from the assembly line taken apart and reassembled!! HELL NO!!
My two cents.
Also: The Audis all burn oil and have a "Min Oil" warning (level sensor) since it's expected!
Audi states that increments as low as 1500 miles is normal. :rolleyes:
Luckily we don't see that often!

carfr3ak 10-14-2009 08:24 PM

How is this well within the lemon law? It usually has to be the same exact problem recurring 3 times at least for it to be a lemon. His engine failed, Nissan gave him a brand spanking new engine. It doesn't get any better than that folks. This is not a situation where the car was involved in a major accident, and the body will never be the same again. This is a 100% back to normal fix.

alexanderb 10-14-2009 08:54 PM

A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

spearfish25 10-14-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 236647)
What is the brand that comes pre loaded in the engine so I can buy a quart or two when I get it to keep it topped off until I can get it swapped out?

Nissan Ester Oil 5W30
NISSAN OIL 5W30 :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com

kevr6 10-14-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carfr3ak (Post 237008)
How is this well within the lemon law? It usually has to be the same exact problem recurring 3 times at least for it to be a lemon. His engine failed, Nissan gave him a brand spanking new engine. It doesn't get any better than that folks. This is not a situation where the car was involved in a major accident, and the body will never be the same again. This is a 100% back to normal fix.

All I'm saying is there has been engine failures soon after purchase at my dealership and Audi takes car of their customer when they ask.(example: an S6 customer had an issue where his engine had to be replaced 1500 miles into ownership, he wasn't comfortable with that, they gave him a new car) Complete engine failure at that mileage absolutely qualifies. I can't beleive you would not agree! And yes, "it can get better than that since I live at a dealership for 12 to 14 hours a day and see it!" (that was why I posted) My POV is from behind the counter talking with Manufacturer reps and such(granted not Nissan). If you have a better POV then share!!
With this type of repair anything can happen that could cause a problem down the road. I handle tickets with engine replacements and it is a major job. If you were to walk down and see you car midway through this type of repair you would probably rethink your position!
Maybe the Audi buyer is generally smarter then the Nissan buyer?? (Flame suit) :stirthepot:
Jokes!
PS: I also have little faith with Nissan techs from personal experience. :shakes head:

John@Z1 10-15-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb (Post 237135)
A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

It's very strange to me that Nissan didn't put an oil gauge in the 370Z.

kannibul 10-15-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb (Post 237135)
A bit off topic but would an oil pressure gauge have prevented this from happening? since you can see if something funky is going on?

Pressure Guage wouldn't do it, since if it drops, you're pretty much done at that point fairly soon after...as in you you better be ready to shut it down as soon as it drops.

370Zsteve 10-15-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 237323)
All I'm saying is there has been engine failures soon after purchase at my dealership and Audi takes car of their customer when they ask.(example: an S6 customer had an issue where his engine had to be replaced 1500 miles into ownership, he wasn't comfortable with that, they gave him a new car) Complete engine failure at that mileage absolutely qualifies. I can't beleive you would not agree! And yes, "it can get better than that since I live at a dealership for 12 to 14 hours a day and see it!" (that was why I posted) My POV is from behind the counter talking with Manufacturer reps and such(granted not Nissan). If you have a better POV then share!!
With this type of repair anything can happen that could cause a problem down the road. I handle tickets with engine replacements and it is a major job. If you were to walk down and see you car midway through this type of repair you would probably rethink your position!
Maybe the Audi buyer is generally smarter then the Nissan buyer?? (Flame suit) :stirthepot:
Jokes!
PS: I also have little faith with Nissan techs from personal experience. :shakes head:

Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell. :hello:

Denny McLain 10-15-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by John@Z1 (Post 237665)
It's very strange to me that Nissan didn't put an oil gauge in the 370Z.

Agree along with a real temp guage instead of volts. Knowing oil pressure and water temps in my mind is pretty important. Low oil pressure = major issues.

Denny McLain 10-15-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 237670)
Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell. :hello:

Dunno, the man is in the business in the trenchs everyday, but I'm sure he has a little bias. We all do.

kevr6 10-15-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 237670)
Great post until the crack about "Nissan techs" which pretty much blows the rest of your post to hell. :hello:

Sorry!! I did say based on my personal experience!! (just so folks know it doesn't mean all) :shakes head:
Reading is fundamental! ;)
Also: Checked w/ co worker advisors here & they agree w/ me. I just want him to cover his butt!

Lug 10-15-2009 11:45 AM

If you don't have one already, insist that they give you an extended warranty since you are nervous about the engine swap. They might go for it.

Modshack 10-15-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 237323)
Maybe the Audi buyer is generally smarter then the Nissan buyer?? (Flame suit) :stirthepot:
Jokes!
PS: I also have little faith with Nissan techs from personal experience. :shakes head:

I have plenty of Audi buddies and they generally think Audi Techs suck too, but they have a LOT more experience with them than the average Nissan customer ever will with a Nissan tech......

drZ 10-15-2009 08:37 PM

Same
 
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Originally Posted by chri$370z (Post 236181)
Hello the370z.com. My 370z touring edition started to stop accelerating when i rev at 3000 then i had shift and it did in 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, gear. So i took it to Power Nissan Torrance, CA. Nissan to get it checked out and Nissan said my car car didnt have enough oil. Nissan drained all the oil out the engine and little metal flakes was in the pan. Nissan came to a conclusion and said my engine was burning oil to fast which made the engine overheated and said thats what damage the engine. They had to replace the whole engine. I only had 2100 miles! Have happen to anyone? :wtf:

i had the same exact problem nissan replaced my engine but it took them way over the estimated wait good luck

kevr6 10-16-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 237911)
I have plenty of Audi buddies and they generally think Audi Techs suck too, but they have a LOT more experience with them than the average Nissan customer ever will with a Nissan tech......

Stay on topic!

Audi tends to over engineer their cars so there is more to break!! (No Arguement) But people love the way drive, look and feel!!
BTW, the first generation TT is a VW, not an Audi! Ask any Audi Technician. I tell my wife that and she gets mad. (but I love VW also)
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I had an experience at the Nissan dealer where I bought my car which was negative. Fundamental stupidity that would never be allowed where I work is all!!!!!!
Makes me nervous about ever getting a warranty repair there.
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Does anyone else want to express their hurt feelings here! It won't change what hapened to me.

Now let's continue with our regularly scheduled program!!
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