Hi rpm oil starvation

Rusty · 02-12-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I am going to order some billet material for other production today or tomorrow. I just ran out under my Z and measured 14x8x2.5 would be large enough to just barely stay above the crossmember. I will get some bricks on the way for it. Maybe try and push through a quick batch of 7-8 and see how it goes.

Do you need mine for a mock up?

phunk · 02-12-2015, 11:18 AM

I dont have a stock pan anymore to measure its depth, but I doubt it goes down 2.5"... so we would be increasing capacity a little bit I believe. The baffle system will no-doubt consume some of the added volume.

jrb55gh · 02-13-2015, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

I dont have a stock pan anymore to measure its depth, but I doubt it goes down 2.5"... so we would be increasing capacity a little bit I believe. The baffle system will no-doubt consume some of the added volume.

Here is a link to a thread that has pictures of pan depth measurements:

GTM Performance Engineering: High Capacity Oil Pan w/oil baffling system (8qts)

phunk · 02-12-2015, 01:33 PM

Well... if you arent using the car it sure wouldnt hurt. But I would never ask you to make the car immobile if its otherwise all together and running! I might be able to find some more detailed pictures with what I am looking for. I remember there being a lot of posts about that pan back when it came out.

Rusty · 02-12-2015, 01:37 PM

I still have my stock pan and spacer to use.

On another note. The AM Perf oil pan uses a modded stock pick-up tube. It's cut and rewelded at a different angle.

phunk · 02-12-2015, 04:06 PM

thats odd about the pickup tube... i dont see any reason to change that. I know guys have to change it to use with the ATI damper with the dry sumps I think, but just for that lower pan its not really in the way at all.

Rusty · 02-12-2015, 04:14 PM

The way it's angled to go through the top of the baffle.

phunk · 02-12-2015, 04:25 PM

might have been an afterthought? we can easily just leave a pass through for it.

phunk · 02-13-2015, 12:36 PM

Here is the original AM Performance thread.

A.M. Performance Extra Capacity Baffled Racing Oil Pans

I can see how their baffles are constructed. I have glanced around trying to find the doors/flaps in my supply catalogs but havent found anything yet. Might have to make the flaps. It looks like they might have. They appear to be aluminum. Wouldnt be too big of a deal to make them but to find them for $5 each in a catalog sure would be nice.

Rusty · 02-13-2015, 01:54 PM

The trap doors are machined aluminum.

Felix 808 · 02-13-2015, 02:59 PM

That is an impressive pan you have there Rusty

I'm starting to show signs of pan envy

, until I look at my needs & the price difference.

jrb55gh · 02-13-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I have glanced around trying to find the doors/flaps in my supply catalogs but havent found anything yet. Might have to make the flaps. It looks like they might have. They appear to be aluminum. Wouldnt be too big of a deal to make them but to find them for $5 each in a catalog sure would be nice.

I Googled "aluminum aircraft hinge" and came up with this link:

Extruded Piano Hinge On Wicks Aircraft Supply

phunk · 02-13-2015, 10:25 PM

Excellent find! Just a quick glance on my iPad it looks like it might be perfect. Extruded aluminum hinge. Genius!

Sometimes little pieces like that can be tedious to machine and set-back product completion. I will take a detailed look again tomorrow and maybe order a foot to get into CAD and try and work with.

Thanks!

need4speed255 · 02-14-2015, 11:16 AM

Just a little heads up on the aircraft hinge. Those are usually a tight fitting hinge so they wont easily flap around to well just from gravity alone. You could remove the hinge pin and turn the pin down if you need more clearance. Chuck the pin in a drill and take some material off with sand paper and scotch pads.

1slow370 · 05-30-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by need4speed255

Just a little heads up on the aircraft hinge. Those are usually a tight fitting hinge so they wont easily flap around to well just from gravity alone. You could remove the hinge pin and turn the pin down if you need more clearance. Chuck the pin in a drill and take some material off with sand paper and scotch pads.

Or just ream the hinge out

02-12-2015, 11:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	I dont have a stock pan anymore to measure its depth, but I doubt it goes down 2.5"... so we would be increasing capacity a little bit I believe. The baffle system will no-doubt consume some of the added volume. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-12-2015, 01:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	Well... if you arent using the car it sure wouldnt hurt. But I would never ask you to make the car immobile if its otherwise all together and running! I might be able to find some more detailed pictures with what I am looking for. I remember there being a lot of posts about that pan back when it came out. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-12-2015, 01:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,351 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I still have my stock pan and spacer to use. On another note. The AM Perf oil pan uses a modded stock pick-up tube. It's cut and rewelded at a different angle. phunk likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

02-12-2015, 04:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	thats odd about the pickup tube... i dont see any reason to change that. I know guys have to change it to use with the ATI damper with the dry sumps I think, but just for that lower pan its not really in the way at all. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-12-2015, 04:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	might have been an afterthought? we can easily just leave a pass through for it. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-13-2015, 12:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	Here is the original AM Performance thread. A.M. Performance Extra Capacity Baffled Racing Oil Pans I can see how their baffles are constructed. I have glanced around trying to find the doors/flaps in my supply catalogs but havent found anything yet. Might have to make the flaps. It looks like they might have. They appear to be aluminum. Wouldnt be too big of a deal to make them but to find them for $5 each in a catalog sure would be nice. FL 4Motion likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-13-2015, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,351 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	The trap doors are machined aluminum. phunk likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

02-13-2015, 02:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Felix 808 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 1,063 Drives: 2011 PW/Grey T/S 7AT Rep Power: 2807	That is an impressive pan you have there Rusty I'm starting to show signs of pan envy , until I look at my needs & the price difference. Rusty likes this. __________________ Semper Fi Μολὼν λαβέ

02-13-2015, 10:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	Excellent find! Just a quick glance on my iPad it looks like it might be perfect. Extruded aluminum hinge. Genius! Sometimes little pieces like that can be tedious to machine and set-back product completion. I will take a detailed look again tomorrow and maybe order a foot to get into CAD and try and work with. Thanks! FL 4Motion, cdoxp800, Rusty and 1 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-14-2015, 11:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
need4speed255 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 262 Drives: 15Nsmo/99 EclipseGST Rep Power: 11	Just a little heads up on the aircraft hinge. Those are usually a tight fitting hinge so they wont easily flap around to well just from gravity alone. You could remove the hinge pin and turn the pin down if you need more clearance. Chuck the pin in a drill and take some material off with sand paper and scotch pads. phunk likes this.

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