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Joker_J 02-04-2015 08:05 AM

Opinions wanted for modding
 
Already purchase the Gen 3, Transmission Cooler and the GTR Push button.

Next parts I'm thinking about getting is CBE, HFC and Header.

Now some people say I won't need a HFC because it justs makes the ride sound louder.

Would I be ok with just the CBE + Header? or would I also need the HFC so everything runs smoother... Thank you!

wsarver 02-04-2015 09:16 AM

I have heard from other members that we already have a very free flowing header so the cost against what you'd gain would be pretty pricey. I plan to do HFC one day but that's when I'll need a tune so I'm going to wait till my warranty expires so I don't have to deal with dealer BS as mine isn't very mod friendly. In my opinion my best mod was my Fast Intentions exhaust. I did the 18" resonators and I enjoy it daily. Best money I've ever spent on any vehicle. It turns a lot of heads even when I'm not looking to catch anyone's attention.

Chuck33079 02-04-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101402)
Already purchase the Gen 3, Transmission Cooler and the GTR Push button.

Next parts I'm thinking about getting is CBE, HFC and Header.

Now some people say I won't need a HFC because it justs makes the ride sound louder.

Would I be ok with just the CBE + Header? or would I also need the HFC so everything runs smoother... Thank you!

Unless you go with long tube headers (which include the section you'd be replacing with HFCs), skip the headers. Absolutely do the HFCs and a cat back, and then a tune. Add an oil cooler if you'rte in a place that sees warm temperatures.

Joker_J 02-04-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 3101436)
I have heard from other members that we already have a very free flowing header so the cost against what you'd gain would be pretty pricey. I plan to do HFC one day but that's when I'll need a tune so I'm going to wait till my warranty expires so I don't have to deal with dealer BS as mine isn't very mod friendly. In my opinion my best mod was my Fast Intentions exhaust. I did the 18" resonators and I enjoy it daily. Best money I've ever spent on any vehicle. It turns a lot of heads even when I'm not looking to catch anyone's attention.

I plan on installing all the parts a week before getting it tuned. Thank god I live near Dynosty! haha

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3101439)
Unless you go with long tube headers (which include the section you'd be replacing with HFCs), skip the headers. Absolutely do the HFCs and a cat back, and then a tune. Add an oil cooler if you'rte in a place that sees warm temperatures.

I've heard mixed reviews with the long tube headers...As for the place I live, I get 4 season weather hahaha So right now its starting to heat up just a little...

theDreamer 02-04-2015 10:12 AM

LTH will give the maximum HP output, but have a higher cost not for the part but installing headers can be a bit pricey if you pay someone (DIY is free).
Definitely get HFC, the cats on our cars are the restrictive part of our exhaust and opening those up will free up a good amount of HP.

Joker_J 02-04-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3101495)
LTH will give the maximum HP output, but have a higher cost not for the part but installing headers can be a bit pricey if you pay someone (DIY is free).
Definitely get HFC, the cats on our cars are the restrictive part of our exhaust and opening those up will free up a good amount of HP.

I know this may sound stupid but i'm not too worried about how much hp i gain.
I just want more of a quicker response when I accelerate when I need to drive away from stupid drivers that dont know how to drive lol

Chuck33079 02-04-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101504)
I know this may sound stupid but i'm not too worried about how much hp i gain.
I just want more of a quicker response when I accelerate when I need to drive away from stupid drivers that dont know how to drive lol

More acceleration requires more power. :confused:

Joker_J 02-04-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3101521)
More acceleration requires more power. :confused:

I meant response... lol instead of having like a slight lag before the power kicks in. (If that makes sense xD)

Also would it affect my gas as well? I'm sure the tune would fix that issue..

Chuck33079 02-04-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101527)
I meant response... lol instead of having like a slight lag before the power kicks in. (If that makes sense xD)

Also would it affect my gas as well? I'm sure the tune would fix that issue..

Then all you need is a tune, not a bunch of parts. That's where the vast majority of the change in throttle response comes from. Parts help, but the tune addresses the actual throttle programming.

synolimit 02-04-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101527)
I meant response... lol instead of having like a slight lag before the power kicks in. (If that makes sense xD)

Also would it affect my gas as well? I'm sure the tune would fix that issue..

Do you have emissions checking?

Sounds like you need lighter wheels, flywheel, rotors etc. that response will be greatly improved.

wsarver 02-04-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3101557)
Do you have emissions checking?

Sounds like you need lighter wheels, flywheel, rotors etc. that response will be greatly improved.

I was thinking the same. If that's all he wants then this combo above would be deadly lol. Price of light rotors and shops not so willing to turn them around my neck of the woods is what turned me away from doing light weight slotted rotors. But that combination of all three would be awesome!

Joker_J 02-04-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3101543)
Then all you need is a tune, not a bunch of parts. That's where the vast majority of the change in throttle response comes from. Parts help, but the tune addresses the actual throttle programming.

I see...I still want a CBE tho haha need to get away from the stock.

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3101557)
Do you have emissions checking?

Sounds like you need lighter wheels, flywheel, rotors etc. that response will be greatly improved.

I have the sport package on the ride so I dont know if that helps lol

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Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 3101589)
I was thinking the same. If that's all he wants then this combo above would be deadly lol. Price of light rotors and shops not so willing to turn them around my neck of the woods is what turned me away from doing light weight slotted rotors. But that combination of all three would be awesome!

So say you were to get 2 of the 3 combination that was listed CBE being a default, would you get a HFC or Headers? I guess i'm thinking in terms of if I change one thing, i'll want to change another so that the other parts can keep up with the upgraded part.

370Z JT 02-04-2015 11:31 AM

If money is tight get headers last. Get exhaust , HFC, tune and call it a day.

Chuck33079 02-04-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101602)
So say you were to get 2 of the 3 combination that was listed CBE being a default, would you get a HFC or Headers? I guess i'm thinking in terms of if I change one thing, i'll want to change another so that the other parts can keep up with the upgraded part.

Changing the headers would most likely require you to remove the stock cats. Shorty headers are the only ones that allow the use of stock cats, and they're a waste of time and money. Your choice is HFCs or test pipes, or proper long tube headers that completely remove the cats.

Nick216 02-04-2015 11:47 AM

Long tubes >

Rusty 02-04-2015 11:57 AM

How much money you got to spend?

Joker_J 02-04-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3101629)
How much money you got to spend?

Saving money, I would buy one part every month until summer hits. So i'll buy the first part next month. Not trying to install the parts when its still winter weather haha

TopgunZ 02-04-2015 12:59 PM

Personally, I would stay away from cat deletes. You will get fumes you don't want. That was one thing I hated about my 350z when I first did test pipes. The smell was killing me.

Next to my turbo, my favorite mod is the FI exhaust with 18" resonators. The note of that exhaust is amazing to say the least. Especially after 4K rpm. Then when all that forced air gets blown through it, it really sings. :driving:

If you go with test pipes or lth and non resonated it will be extremely raspy. Some people love that, others don't. It does sound mean but it sucks starting your car at 7am and pissing off your neighbors. Not to mention it gets a bit annoying at that time in the morning on your drive to work. You could go with 12" resonators also if you want a little more aggressive sound than the 18"'s.

Exhausts really change the sound of the car and not the driving experience though. Not anything you can tell by the butt dyno anyway.

These headers flow! Im using them to push 15lbs of boost through. So your money would be better spent on other breathing mods.

No CAI on the list? I will have a set for sale soon when I change my intake piping from 2.75" to the 3". But this will for sure require a tune, but since that's your plan.........:rolleyes:

Joker_J 02-04-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3101712)
Personally, I would stay away from cat deletes. You will get fumes you don't want. That was one thing I hated about my 350z when I first did test pipes. The smell was killing me.

Next to my turbo, my favorite mod is the FI exhaust with 18" resonators. The note of that exhaust is amazing to say the least. Especially after 4K rpm. Then when all that forced air gets blown through it, it really sings. :driving:

If you go with test pipes or lth and non resonated it will be extremely raspy. Some people love that, others don't. It does sound mean but it sucks starting your car at 7am and pissing off your neighbors. Not to mention it gets a bit annoying at that time in the morning on your drive to work. You could go with 12" resonators also if you want a little more aggressive sound than the 18"'s.

Exhausts really change the sound of the car and not the driving experience though. Not anything you can tell by the butt dyno anyway.

These headers flow! Im using them to push 15lbs of boost through. So your money would be better spent on other breathing mods.

No CAI on the list? I will have a set for sale soon when I change my intake piping from 2.75" to the 3". But this will for sure require a tune, but since that's your plan.........:rolleyes:

Im not wanting to turbo or SC the car lol
The parts I have bought already are the Stillen Gen 3, GTR push button and Transmission cooler.

I like more of the Apexi'RS, Stillen exhaust sound lol I hate it when I hear cars that sound like muscle cars haha loud and annoying.

TopgunZ 02-04-2015 02:39 PM

I was not saying you should get a turbo. But I was saying that the sound of the FI exhaust is straight dope. It does not sound "muscly" but more exotic.

COSMO 02-04-2015 02:43 PM

But if you do be sure you go BP. He just wants to sell it.. lol

Joker_J 02-04-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3101812)
I was not saying you should get a turbo. But I was saying that the sound of the FI exhaust is straight dope. It does not sound "muscly" but more exotic.

I know lol I'm thinking about getting the Berk HFC and FI exhaust. Wonder how that sounds together...

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3101813)
But if you do be sure you go BP. He just wants to sell it.. lol

Im still learning all of these acronyms, but what does BP stand for?

gbrettin 02-04-2015 02:49 PM

HFC - High Flow Cat
F.I. - Fast Intentions or Forced Induction... depending on context.
BP - Boosted Performance (Twin Scroll Turbo Company)

TopgunZ 02-04-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo (Post 3101813)
but if you do be sure you go bp. He just wants to sell it.. Lol

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Originally Posted by cosmo (Post 3101819)
bp stands for boosted performance and topgunz is their #1 seller along with jwick. They met in camp bp last year while spooning together..

mods!! Get rid of this idiot!!!! We cant even provide input without his f**cking smartass comments. He is ruining the forum!!!

COSMO 02-04-2015 03:02 PM

topgunz just came out of the closet just yesterday so he is a bit confused and angry at the world so please be patient with him as he goes through this transition..

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3101830)
mods!! Get rid of this idiot!!!! We cant even provide input without his f**cking smartass comments. He is ruining the forum!!!

"Why cant we be friends~" haha
Yea...no place around here, well there are places to go fast but not wanting to go turbo. Car has enough power as it is hahaha

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3101830)
mods!! Get rid of this idiot!!!! We cant even provide input without his f**cking smartass comments. He is ruining the forum!!!

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3101834)
topgunz just came out of the closet just yesterday so he is a bit confused and angry at the world so please be patient with him as he goes through this transition..

lmfao oh man...i feel the comments coming now

wsarver 02-04-2015 03:14 PM

There goes another good thread. As if you two didn't already have plenty of room to bicker back and forth. I refuse to choose sides however, it gets OLD.

Joker I absolutely love my Fast Intentions exhaust. I'm thinking of going with HFC's as well. If you beat me to it let me know what you think.

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 3101851)
There goes another good thread. As if you two didn't already have plenty of room to bicker back and forth. I refuse to choose sides however, it gets OLD.

Joker I absolutely love my Fast Intentions exhaust. I'm thinking of going with HFC's as well. If you beat me to it let me know what you think.

Yea...I would expect those kind of talk from people who drive mustangs xP
I will! I'm actually thinking about ordering some Berk HFC. Do you know anything about these HFC?

COSMO 02-04-2015 03:30 PM

I would go with kintetix hfc because the internal material is better than the berks and its a bit cheaper.. Being naturally aspirated you still need some backpressure or you will loose torque..

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3101862)
I would go with kintetix hfc because the internal material is better than the berks and its a bit cheaper..

really? I'll have to take a look at it lol

COSMO 02-04-2015 03:36 PM

Almost forgot to mention the berk hfc has been known to throw a engine light but with the kinetics they will not... You can get a set of kinetix for $399 shipped via ebay..

jwick 02-04-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101859)
Yea...I would expect those kind of talk from people who drive mustangs xP
I will! I'm actually thinking about ordering some Berk HFC. Do you know anything about these HFC?

I had Berk's and loved them. Sound great, good gains and the fitment was perfect. Of all my N/A mods they by far had the most gains. I highly recommend them. They are a little raspy until they warm up but nothing to complain about. You won't be disappointed. Unfortunately I had them mated to my Stillen CBE and not my FI exhaust, so I can't comment on how that setup would sound.

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3101879)
I had Berk's and loved them. Sound great, good gains and the fitment was perfect. Of all my N/A mods they by far had the most gains. I highly recommend them. They are a little raspy until they warm up but nothing to complain about. You won't be disappointed. Unfortunately I had them mated to my Stillen CBE and not my FI exhaust, so I can't comment on how that setup would sound.

Do you know anything about the kinitetix? forgot what they were called lol
Some are saying Berk will throw off the engine light and some say they don't. Im confused haha

Note: I'm going to install everything a week before or at Dynosty on the day I get my car Tuned lol

wsarver 02-04-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101886)
Do you know anything about the kinitetix? forgot what they were called lol
Some are saying Berk will throw off the engine light and some say they don't. Im confused haha

Note: I'm going to install everything a week before or at Dynosty on the day I get my car Tuned lol

SHEESH that'll be a busy week lol.

COSMO 02-04-2015 03:49 PM

I would suggest researching both so you don't just go on a biased review... After researching many thread on this forum you will see what I'm talking about.. Ha, I guess that did sound kinda biased but it is factual... lol

Search BERK CEL

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...light-why.html

http://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhau...ine-light.html

Joker_J 02-04-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3101898)
I would suggest researching both so you don't just go on a biased review... After researching many thread on this forum you will see what I'm talking about.. Ha, I guess that did sound kinda biased but it is factual... lol

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...light-why.html

But in the long run, i'm going for the one that will last longer xD

TopgunZ 02-04-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3101834)
topgunz just came out of the closet just yesterday so he is a bit confused and angry at the world so please be patient with him as he goes through this transition..

Mods....Really?

jwick 02-04-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker_J (Post 3101886)
Do you know anything about the kinitetix? forgot what they were called lol
Some are saying Berk will throw off the engine light and some say they don't. Im confused haha

Note: I'm going to install everything a week before or at Dynosty on the day I get my car Tuned lol

I don't know anything about that brand. I never threw a code with my Berk's and I ran them for 35k miles. Sold them to a buddy and he's running them now with no issue.

Not saying it doesn't exist but I've never seen anything that points directly to the Berk's causing the code.

COSMO 02-04-2015 04:01 PM

Ok buy the berks and be sure to follow up when your engine light comes on and then be sure to thank the BP Club of America, Jwick & topgunz...


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