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synolimit 01-29-2015 12:53 PM

Dynojet owners words!
 
Sorry I have to. This is from the owner of Dynojet. Some have seen me put people down (and I'm sorry) but I'm only doing it to be accurate and I hate people cheating or trying to up a part. Let's all just do the same thing please and listen to the owner. :tup:

This is also important for comparing results at the same dyno shop, for example, here in Las Vegas our atmospheric pressure stays relatively consistent, but our temps vary from 38 degrees to 118 degrees. So the same car with no changes will certainly make less power on the hot day compared to the cool day, but applying the SAE CF allows us to make an “apples to apples” comparison. If you take anything away from the last few sentences, it would be to ask your dyno operator to make sure that he is showing you SAE corrected HP figures, and before I get off my soap box, I will say that there are certain Dynojet dyno owners who apply the “STD” correction factor, and that’s not proper to do. The STD CF is an older standard that yields slightly higher HP numbers, so don’t allow yourself to fall into the trap (just use the SAE CF!!).

phunk 01-29-2015 01:41 PM

Or just compare apples to apples. The difference STD and SAE generally is not much. The Z world used to be all SAE going way back, I believe it was GTM that started the trend of posting STD graphs all over so everyone else just posted STD as well to keep it apples to apples.

phunk 01-29-2015 01:49 PM

BTW when you are at the dyno shop, there is a drop down menu right there in the runviewer that allows you to view it in either correction factor.

You can just print it out or photo it in both STD and SAE, and then you have all your bases covered for comparison to whichever other Dynojet graph you wish to compare.

This also coming from a Dynojet owner, LOL. I bought one brand new several years ago but sold it to a local shop.

synolimit 01-29-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3096192)
Or just compare apples to apples. The difference STD and SAE generally is not much. The Z world used to be all SAE going way back, I believe it was GTM that started the trend of posting STD graphs all over so everyone else just posted STD as well to keep it apples to apples.

Can make enough though being NA. If boosted I wouldn't care as 1 psi would be the difference or 1 degree of timing. So many people though get confused though. Plus I like the sleeper numbers.

synolimit 01-29-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3096199)
BTW when you are at the dyno shop, there is a drop down menu right there in the runviewer that allows you to view it in either correction factor.

You can just print it out or photo it in both STD and SAE, and then you have all your bases covered for comparison to whichever other Dynojet graph you wish to compare.

This also coming from a Dynojet owner, LOL. I bought one brand new several years ago but sold it to a local shop.

O I know, but no one ever shows the smaller one ;)

phunk 01-29-2015 02:13 PM

I agree completely with what you are posting.

If you looked back to posts I used to make in the Z33 world, you could see I was all about the SAE numbers myself. I would RATHER see SAE dynojet graphs everywhere I look. Unfortunately I knew that it would be a lot easier to just get on the STD bandwagon here and start using those, rather than having to either convince other shops to do the same or have to annotate all my graphs with a note like "and it would be even higher in STD!!!" LOL.

Mitco39 01-30-2015 09:01 AM

Guys. We are starting to look at dyno's ourselves and I figured this would be a great place to ask.

How do you/did you like your Dynojets? The name is much more known up here, however many peers I talk to also seem to love the mustang dyno's (which are much much cheaper btw).

Ive talked to both owners and seen them both at SEMA last fall. Just looking for some real world experiences with them.

synolimit 01-30-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 3096889)
Guys. We are starting to look at dyno's ourselves and I figured this would be a great place to ask.

How do you/did you like your Dynojets? The name is much more known up here, however many peers I talk to also seem to love the mustang dyno's (which are much much cheaper btw).

Ive talked to both owners and seen them both at SEMA last fall. Just looking for some real world experiences with them.

Here's the rest if it helps.

http://imageftp.dynojet.com/CMD/Trut...Runs_Final.pdf

Mitco39 01-30-2015 09:28 AM

Read through it and the only thing that concerns me is I want a 424LC. I want the ability to do more than just WOT runs on the drum. While reading that I did realize that with the dynojet I effectively get 2 dynos in 1 however. I would imagine you can turn off the brake altogether and just run the weighted drums only.

Mitco39 01-30-2015 09:32 AM

Essentially I know the marketing on both of them, been researching now for about 6 months. Just looking for shop reviews, any issues? how has support been? that sorta thing.

I am leaning to dynojet mostly because of their name up here. Guys want dynojet to run their cars and trucks on.

phunk 01-30-2015 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3096899)

I am glad you posted this because its supporting of what I have been claiming for years. That Dynojets are the only dynos where the operator cannot manipulate the numbers. I had one for several years and the 4 preset atmospheric correction factor options are the ONLY thing you switch around, and it says it right on the graph which it is set to, so that everyone can know.

All the other dynos, you never know what you are getting, so comparing them is impossible. Some dyno operators program in a "dynojet correction" to try and simulate a dynojet, usually making ridiculously high numbers, etc.

I hate to have say this, but this is the honest truth. Whenever someone posts a dynograph to a forum, if its not a Dynojet graph, I literally scroll right past it. I dont even look at the curve or numbers. As interesting and useful as it may have been to the operator/tuner on the dyno that made that graph... it is pretty much meaningless to the outside world for comparison because nobody knows how the dyno was even configured.

When it comes to buying a dyno. if you are only using it as a tuning tool.. a means of loading the engine while stationary for safe tuning.. then you have a few options. If you want a graph to compare with the rest of the US, then you want a Dynojet.

If you want a lot of outside business coming in to use your Dyno... dynojet. When I had my Dynojet it was basically up to me how much to use it... there was always people who wanted to use it. You could literally setup a one bay shop with a Dynojet in the ground and a little office and have that be your full time business once the word gets around.

phunk 01-30-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 3096914)
Essentially I know the marketing on both of them, been researching now for about 6 months. Just looking for shop reviews, any issues? how has support been? that sorta thing.

I am leaning to dynojet mostly because of their name up here. Guys want dynojet to run their cars and trucks on.

My Dynojet never needed any service ever. You just adjust the brake shoes once a year if the rollers slow down too slowly when you hit the stop button.

I think you maybe add a squirt or 2 of grease to the zerk fitting every few years, I dont know. I didnt have mine long enough to get to that point.

FPenvy 01-30-2015 01:13 PM

oh look.....another thread of scotty bitchin about people not using the numbers he likes. what a surprise.

:facepalm:

synolimit 01-31-2015 08:48 AM

O look, 25,138 posts with no life. Come on, get out there cupcake, you'll find him one day. :tiphat:

RBfastback 01-31-2015 10:22 AM

glad u posted this, lately I've been feeling like there are all these n/a z's that have so much more then mine to the wheels either in there signature or in a thread an I'm like wtf I have the same parts...lol


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