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Buying upon release. Can we get an ETA?
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bumpidy bump
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wonder what it will sound like...lol
nice welds btw...... |
nogoodname there are clips on youtube.
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Do these affect ground clearance vs stock at all?
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Looks like it sits a little lower, but GTM should be able to answer if they ever come back :)
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How would you guys comapre your tru dual campared to Stillen's at the same price?
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for starters GTM > Stillen because theirs is an actual true dual exhaust..no Y pipe.
I found this Youtube clip of GTM tuning it on the dyno. Could GTM please say what type of dyno it was tuned on ? Wish this was only a grand ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsBy8Sem8w |
If only we could get a true exhaust sound clip instead of the two dyno clips.........I'm ready to spend money......until then the wait for Greddy i guess cause it would be an automatic buy
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Stillen has more of a Y in the pipe, this has an X. I'm no expert but from what I understand the X design is the freeist flowing method. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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::wondering why GTM never bothered to come back to this thread to answer questions or post more info::
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So moving the section of the "Y" like a foot further back makes an "X" which makes it more free flowing......
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^ right. So, there is more flow with an x pipe. But how much flow does this car need? Remember that most cars need SOME back-pressure, or it can actually hurt performance, specifically torque.
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Right on... Well I guess the only "true dual" system would be 2 individual pipes running from 2 downpipes back to 2 mufflers then out. Screw it. I'm not trying to start crap, I have just always wondered and now I guess I have my answer
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I didn't think you were trying to start crap, it's a legitimate question.
I forgot to address your point of X pipes connecting and splitting. When you look at the x pipe in the above pictures, the two pipes connect, but remain two individual pipes. If you're wondering why they connect at all, which a lot of people do, it's to balance the exhaust so it all flows out at the same rate. This is important for a consistent sound and better torque. But as I already touched on, to me there is a difference between an exhaust going into one pipe and then splitting into two separate pipes, as opposed to two pipes that never combine into a single pipe. I guess I just don't see the difference between 8" of single pipe, or 5'. Not trying to sound anal, I just don't think a single pipe really meets the spirit of "true dual." |
I can see your point there. I'm glad you didn't think I was trying to crap on you. I really just never understood ya know. Now that you have made a little more detailed explanation and I have looked at the pics a little closer, I can see what you mean. Either way, I'm going Stillen lol
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Here is a pic I found of the Stillen catback together if this helps (if this is the wrong catback system, someone tell me). You can see the X on the GTM and the Y on the Stillen here...
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