Change engine oil step by step

Mitco39 · 07-16-2014, 11:53 AM

Don't most specify something like hand tight then 1/2 a turn more?

aszyd · 07-16-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

Don't most specify something like hand tight then 1/2 a turn more?

That sounds about right. I know with the oil filters, I tighten until it is almost too difficult to remove by hand. That way I know it's not going to rattle loose. I have been stuck with a torqued on filter and no wrench. It's not fun having to jam a screw driver through the filter to get it off.

Drain plugs are the same, but with tools. Just tight enough to need a little torque to take them off. It's not necessary to put them at 80 ft/lbs.

Limeybastard · 07-16-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

That sounds about right. I know with the oil filters, I tighten until it is almost too difficult to remove by hand. That way I know it's not going to rattle loose. I have been stuck with a torqued on filter and no wrench. It's not fun having to jam a screw driver through the filter to get it off.

Drain plugs are the same, but with tools. Just tight enough to need a little torque to take them off. It's not necessary to put them at 80 ft/lbs.

That occured on my first oil change, the factory had over tightened it then quart a turn. I only every just hand tighten.

Very messy.

djc119 · 07-25-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

... It's not fun having to jam a screw driver through the filter to get it off...

I had this problem on every NEW car I've ever bought.

4988 mi. on the NEW Z, so I'll find out when I change the oil; as soon as I get a set of low ramps.

BTW- Anyone selling low ramps aroung the NY area?

Plasmite · 07-25-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

That sounds about right. I know with the oil filters, I tighten until it is almost too difficult to remove by hand. That way I know it's not going to rattle loose. I have been stuck with a torqued on filter and no wrench. It's not fun having to jam a screw driver through the filter to get it off.

Drain plugs are the same, but with tools. Just tight enough to need a little torque to take them off. It's not necessary to put them at 80 ft/lbs.

That sounds more like they mated it up to the surface without lubing the o-ring first. You can put a filter on tight with a 1/4 turn and have to plasma cut it off if someone didn't lube the mating surfaces first.

I am on my 10 billionth oil change (HD apprentice) and it is STILL something that drives me batshi+ crazy lol

1325 · 07-25-2014, 05:33 PM

Hand tighten the oil filter and for removal, nothing does a better job than using oil filter pliers. Its teeth with firmly grasp the filter and loosen with ease.

aszyd · 07-25-2014, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Plasmite

That sounds more like they mated it up to the surface without lubing the o-ring first. You can put a filter on tight with a 1/4 turn and have to plasma cut it off if someone didn't lube the mating surfaces first.

I am on my 10 billionth oil change (HD apprentice) and it is STILL something that drives me batshi+ crazy lol

That's very possible. How do you feel about filling the filter with oil before putting it on the car? On the new Focus, the filter faces downwards, so it was quite easy to do the pre-fill, but with these sideways mounted filters, I don't know how to do it without making a mess. So I usually don't...

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Originally Posted by 1325

Hand tighten the oil filter and for removal, nothing does a better job than using oil filter pliers. Its teeth with firmly grasp the filter and loosen with ease.

Back when I had my first car, I would let Walmart do the oil changes. They once "gifted" me a filter wrench. When I got home after a change, I noticed that the hood was bulging oddly on one side. When I opened it up, there was a filter wrench just sitting there

. I think my father has it now, I'm not sure.

1325 · 07-26-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

That's very possible. How do you feel about filling the filter with oil before putting it on the car? On the new Focus, the filter faces downwards, so it was quite easy to do the pre-fill, but with these sideways mounted filters, I don't know how to do it without making a mess. So I usually don't...

No need to charge it until it's nearly full. I pre-fill approximately until about half and mount it. Once you pour oil into the engine itself gravity will fill the filter anyway.

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Originally Posted by aszyd

Back when I had my first car, I would let Walmart do the oil changes. They once "gifted" me a filter wrench. When I got home after a change, I noticed that the hood was bulging oddly on one side. When I opened it up, there was a filter wrench just sitting there

. I think my father has it now, I'm not sure.

LOL Nice! Wal-Mart is a gift and a curse.

Plasmite · 07-28-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

That's very possible. How do you feel about filling the filter with oil before putting it on the car? On the new Focus, the filter faces downwards, so it was quite easy to do the pre-fill, but with these sideways mounted filters, I don't know how to do it without making a mess. So I usually don't...

Back when I had my first car, I would let Walmart do the oil changes. They once "gifted" me a filter wrench. When I got home after a change, I noticed that the hood was bulging oddly on one side. When I opened it up, there was a filter wrench just sitting there

. I think my father has it now, I'm not sure.

There is technically NO need to fill a OIL filter with oil before putting on. You can put the filter on, then start the car, wait for the oil pressure to hit where it would normally sit. Shut her down, wait a good 10 mins for the oil to collect in the pan again and top her up the 1/4 quart or however big the filter is. This is a SOP for everything I have worked on, never had an issue.

Fuel filter is ENTIRELY different. YOU MUST fill the filter, else you are flushing out the injectors. So a note for people with diesel.

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1325 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 287 Drives: 10 370Z BLK 6M Rep Power: 15	Hand tighten the oil filter and for removal, nothing does a better job than using oil filter pliers. Its teeth with firmly grasp the filter and loosen with ease.