stuck brake line fittings.. suggestions?

newtonova822 · 05-25-2014, 08:44 AM

Hello, I am trying to install Z1 SS brake lines but have hit a snag.
The lines that attach to the block will not loosen on either side in the rear.
Have not tried the front yet. When I say block, on the Z1 lines it would be the brass block. Any suggestions???

grandpawmoses · 05-25-2014, 10:29 AM

penetrating oil

N8GTOL · 05-25-2014, 10:31 AM

We may need a little more info to help diagnose.

Did you buy these new from Z1?

The lines should not have been pre-tightened if you bought them new. If used, then maybe the previous owner did something wacky like put loctite or tape on the threads (which you are not supposed to do).

Does it look cross threaded? Post a picture as that will help us help you.

Are you using a flare nut wrench? Hold the brass block with pliers and just torque that sob!...lefty loose

Good luck OP and I hope nothing is damaged. Brake lines are a safety component so don't take any chances if you think they are suspect after reinstall.

newtonova822 · 05-29-2014, 05:35 PM

it is stock lines that are stuck. No I only have sae flare wrenches do they sell metric??

the Z1 lines are second hand but never installed you can tell.

I will look to see if metric flare tool available. If they are still sae mine do not go that small.

Thanks

40 to 332 · 05-29-2014, 07:36 PM

You should definitely get yourself a set of metric flare nut wrenches ... otherwise you risk "rounding" the flare nut(s), which will only add to the difficulty of loosening the nut(s) as well as re-tightening them into the new block. The nuts can be torqued quite tight from the factory. It can be difficult to get enough leverage with the flare nut wrench only because of the short length. You can try inserting the free end of the flare nut wrench through the open end of a large box end wrench (17-21 mm) and manoeuvring the box end wrench to give you the added length and leverage needed ... or if you have a short length of pipe that you can place over the free end of the flare nut wrench to get the needed leverage you should be able to apply enough force (gently) to loosen the nuts. I just switched the stock brake lines on my Xterra over to SS lines this weekend, and I had to use a pipe and flare nut wrench "combination" to gain enough leverage to free up the nuts. Also, when re-tightening the nuts, you can simply use the flare nut wrench to achieve the needed torque. Don't over-torque the nuts; otherwise, you'll strip them and then your troubles will really begin! Trust this helps.

05-25-2014, 08:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
newtonova822 Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: No Va Posts: 70 Drives: 2014-370Z-White_Manu Rep Power: 11	stuck brake line fittings.. suggestions? Hello, I am trying to install Z1 SS brake lines but have hit a snag. The lines that attach to the block will not loosen on either side in the rear. Have not tried the front yet. When I say block, on the Z1 lines it would be the brass block. Any suggestions???

05-29-2014, 05:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
newtonova822 Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: No Va Posts: 70 Drives: 2014-370Z-White_Manu Rep Power: 11	flare nut tools and stuck brake lines it is stock lines that are stuck. No I only have sae flare wrenches do they sell metric?? the Z1 lines are second hand but never installed you can tell. I will look to see if metric flare tool available. If they are still sae mine do not go that small. Thanks

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N8GTOL Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 228 Drives: and flies Rep Power: 22	We may need a little more info to help diagnose. Did you buy these new from Z1? The lines should not have been pre-tightened if you bought them new. If used, then maybe the previous owner did something wacky like put loctite or tape on the threads (which you are not supposed to do). Does it look cross threaded? Post a picture as that will help us help you. Are you using a flare nut wrench? Hold the brass block with pliers and just torque that sob!...lefty loose Good luck OP and I hope nothing is damaged. Brake lines are a safety component so don't take any chances if you think they are suspect after reinstall.

05-29-2014, 07:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
40 to 332 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kimberley, BC, CANADA Posts: 447 Drives: 13 370Z BS M6 Sport Rep Power: 439	You should definitely get yourself a set of metric flare nut wrenches ... otherwise you risk "rounding" the flare nut(s), which will only add to the difficulty of loosening the nut(s) as well as re-tightening them into the new block. The nuts can be torqued quite tight from the factory. It can be difficult to get enough leverage with the flare nut wrench only because of the short length. You can try inserting the free end of the flare nut wrench through the open end of a large box end wrench (17-21 mm) and manoeuvring the box end wrench to give you the added length and leverage needed ... or if you have a short length of pipe that you can place over the free end of the flare nut wrench to get the needed leverage you should be able to apply enough force (gently) to loosen the nuts. I just switched the stock brake lines on my Xterra over to SS lines this weekend, and I had to use a pipe and flare nut wrench "combination" to gain enough leverage to free up the nuts. Also, when re-tightening the nuts, you can simply use the flare nut wrench to achieve the needed torque. Don't over-torque the nuts; otherwise, you'll strip them and then your troubles will really begin! Trust this helps.