DIY: Front Stud replacement/ Spacer install

DuNw/4BanGerZ · 07-30-2009, 07:46 AM

I am planning on using 20mm spacers all around. would i probably have to use a different method to get the lugs in there? also would i be able to just use V2 in the front?

tonmed123 · 07-30-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DuNw/4BanGerZ

I am planning on using 20mm spacers all around. would i probably have to use a different method to get the lugs in there? also would i be able to just use V2 in the front?

Post some pics asap once you get them!

abakja1 · 10-15-2009, 12:18 PM

What is the ft/lbs to put the Version 2 spacer to the hub on the rear using their lugnuts?

Not sure how Im going to torque em down without a impact gun, but maybe if Im strong enough to hold it from turning..

Modshack · 10-16-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by abakja1

What is the ft/lbs to put the Version 2 spacer to the hub on the rear using their lugnuts?

Not sure how Im going to torque em down without a impact gun, but maybe if Im strong enough to hold it from turning..

Set the parking brake and torque to 90-100 lbs....About the same as the main wheel lugs..

6MT · 10-16-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Set the parking brake and torque to 90-100 lbs....About the same as the main wheel lugs..

90-100 ft/lbs may be too high. OEM spec for the lug nuts is 75-80 I believe.

Modshack · 10-16-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

90-100 ft/lbs may be too high. OEM spec for the lug nuts is 75-80 I believe.

Service manual says 80......I always torque to 90 per guidelines for other cars I've owned. I have a dedicated torque wrench just for wheels. The real caution is to avoid putting a 400 ft lb impact gun on them.......10-15 lb differential is not a lot. I'd rather error on the side of tight than loose...YMMV.

6MT · 10-16-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Service manual says 80......I always torque to 90 per guidelines for other cars I've owned. I have a dedicated torque wrench just for wheels. The real caution is to avoid putting a 400 ft lb impact gun on them.......10-15 lb differential is not a lot. I'd rather error on the side of tight than loose...YMMV.

Yep, I do the very same thing.

abakja1 · 10-17-2009, 07:45 AM

I usually tq wheels at 85ft/lbs, but I can deal with 90ft/lbs,..I hope the parking break can hold since it going to be a 1 man job.

abakja1 · 11-29-2009, 08:23 PM

just read this thread again as I will need to do this mod soon and have some ideas to save some money... So chime in if more experienced mechanics/DIY'ers disagree..

1. I would take off 1 at a time and remount, but wouldn't it be easier to remove each oem stud using a hammer and punch to "push" them out?

2. Using the access hole, you can punch the new studs back in.

3. I agree using anti-sieze on the spacers so they dont stick and on the studs as well..

Let me know as I plan to do this when weather gets better during a weekend... Turkey cooking and BF shopping had me busy this weekend..

Modshack · 11-30-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by abakja1

just read this thread again as I will need to do this mod soon and have some ideas to save some money... So chime in if more experienced mechanics/DIY'ers disagree..

1. I would take off 1 at a time and remount, but wouldn't it be easier to remove each oem stud using a hammer and punch to "push" them out?

2. Using the access hole, you can punch the new studs back in.

3. I agree using anti-sieze on the spacers so they dont stick and on the studs as well..

Let me know as I plan to do this when weather gets better during a weekend... Turkey cooking and BF shopping had me busy this weekend..

I think you'll have a hard time doing it that way. While you can use a punch, the method shown is meant to preserve the parts witout distorting the studs or messing up threads.

On putting them in, it take quite a bit of force. there's not much swinging room back there. Pulling them in with the impact is the best way.

Many do not recommend antiseize of lug threads

schao · 02-14-2010, 11:16 AM

won't the spacers change the offset of the wheels and put extra stress on the bearings?

Modshack · 02-14-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by schao

won't the spacers change the offset of the wheels and put extra stress on the bearings?

Yes
No

I and many of my friends have used spacers on various cars for many years. Nowhere have we ever seen any evidence of accelerated wheel bearing wear. 10-20mm is not a lot if offset increase..

batman_4 · 03-28-2010, 03:13 PM

if i have never used an impact gun would you still recommend i do the front stud replacement? that step confuses me....so using the impact gun is bringing the stud out towards "us" to fit in place?

im assuming home depot or such would rent out an impact gun or am i wrong?

Mike · 03-28-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by batman_4

if i have never used an impact gun would you still recommend i do the front stud replacement? that step confuses me....so using the impact gun is bringing the stud out towards "us" to fit in place?

im assuming home depot or such would rent out an impact gun or am i wrong?

you could do it with a regular long bar socket wrench, but you would need a helper stepping on the brakes and your muscles would get really tired.
The ends of the bolts are knurled, and are normally pressed into the hub. When you install them after initial assembly, they are pulled in with the impact wrench, or you could pull them in the same way manually, but you are putting a the stud into a slighly smaller hole, hence the getting really tired part.

batman_4 · 03-29-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

you could do it with a regular long bar socket wrench, but you would need a helper stepping on the brakes and your muscles would get really tired.
The ends of the bolts are knurled, and are normally pressed into the hub. When you install them after initial assembly, they are pulled in with the impact wrench, or you could pull them in the same way manually, but you are putting a the stud into a slighly smaller hole, hence the getting really tired part.

gotcha

Any experience w/an impact gun? I'll probably tackle it later today....but have never used one. They self explanatory?

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07-30-2009, 07:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
DuNw/4BanGerZ Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 41 Posts: 92 Drives: 2009 370Z MB M6 w/sp Rep Power: 16	I am planning on using 20mm spacers all around. would i probably have to use a different method to get the lugs in there? also would i be able to just use V2 in the front?

10-15-2009, 12:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
abakja1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 351 Drives: STI, MDX, Titan Rep Power: 305	What is the ft/lbs to put the Version 2 spacer to the hub on the rear using their lugnuts? Not sure how Im going to torque em down without a impact gun, but maybe if Im strong enough to hold it from turning..

10-17-2009, 07:45 AM	#23 (permalink)
abakja1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 351 Drives: STI, MDX, Titan Rep Power: 305	I usually tq wheels at 85ft/lbs, but I can deal with 90ft/lbs,..I hope the parking break can hold since it going to be a 1 man job.

11-29-2009, 08:23 PM	#24 (permalink)
abakja1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 351 Drives: STI, MDX, Titan Rep Power: 305	just read this thread again as I will need to do this mod soon and have some ideas to save some money... So chime in if more experienced mechanics/DIY'ers disagree.. 1. I would take off 1 at a time and remount, but wouldn't it be easier to remove each oem stud using a hammer and punch to "push" them out? 2. Using the access hole, you can punch the new studs back in. 3. I agree using anti-sieze on the spacers so they dont stick and on the studs as well.. Let me know as I plan to do this when weather gets better during a weekend... Turkey cooking and BF shopping had me busy this weekend..

02-14-2010, 11:16 AM	#26 (permalink)
schao Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 10 Drives: mitsubishi Rep Power: 15	won't the spacers change the offset of the wheels and put extra stress on the bearings?