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Old 06-05-2012, 04:41 PM   #376 (permalink)
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:25 AM   #377 (permalink)
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Got mine yesterday, took her out for a drive tonight and she works great. No lag or anything out of the normal. Thanks again Fritz and BDL. Reps for you both!
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Got mine yesterday, took her out for a drive tonight and she works great. No lag or anything out of the normal. Thanks again Fritz and BDL. Reps for you both!
Thanks and I would just like to add my thanks to Fritz because without his work this wouldn't have happened. The harness is just an plug and play implementation of what Fritz discovered.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:56 PM   #379 (permalink)
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Harness installed!! was a breeze took less then 5 minutes. thanks again!
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Harness installed. Everything working perfectly. Thanks again!
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Got and installed my harness, works great, thanks again. Another thing I wanted to mention is that I was refunded half my delivery charge because I pesume shipping was less than expected. I have never had any business do this before and I was extremely impressed and thought everyone should know the class that bdl99 has. Reps to you and thanks again.
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i got mine in the mail yesterday... gotta install it today maybe when i swing by the body shop thanks again bro
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Thanks Brian, I got mine in place today; repped! All works perfectly
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forgot to update this... installed it in about 5 mins and shes great... no lag or anything like that bye bye steering lock
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There are lots of discussions in various threads and I have received several PMs asking my take on the pros and cons of each solution. I've always responded privately up until now and didn't post publicly because I thought that some might think I'm biased. Those who know me or have dealt with me will know that I'm not like that at all. I'm happy to adjust the information below if the facts are incorrect and of course can be backed up with data.

Before I go any further I first want to acknowledged Fritz's work, because without it the plug and play harness wouldn't have been created and I'm sure that the pull the fuse solution wouldn't have either. Or at the very least the other solutions wouldn't have been developed as quickly because Fritz's work proved that removing the power from the lock while in the unlocked state was the key to a solution. Regardless of which solution you go for most of the credit really lies with Fritz.

Pros and Cons of Plug and Play harness vs Pulling the fuse

Plug and Play Harness
Pros:
  • The easiest and quickest solution to perform where no trim needs to be removed whatsoever
  • Full instructions provided with pictures and a video of the install process
  • Fully reversible, either temporarily via switch or by just removing the harness and returning car to factory state
  • It only cuts the power to the lock and not the ECU. When pulling the fuse the power is also removed from the ECU. Some have speculated that this has no downside and that appears to be the case except the delays in starting that many have seen.
Cons:
  • It costs $50
Pull the fuse:
Pros:
  • There is nothing to buy
  • It is also reversible - Just put the fuse back in
Cons:
  • Although straight forward, it is not as quick and easy to install as the harness. Some have broken clips etc and you do need to be careful, but to be completely unbiased many have done this without issues.
  • As mentioned above it does appear that this solution does sometimes cause delays in starting. There are theories that the ECU will learn and adjusting for this and that might be the case. However, typically with ECUs they learn by acquiring data and if that is the case it would normally log that data. The data the ECU would be logging is that it issued a pulse to activate the relay but didn't receive the confirmation via the positive feed from the relay to the ECU. If it is really doing this I would expect this data to be presented/reported when a Consult unit is attached by the dealer. To date no one has confirmed if this happens or not.
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To the pros for the harness, it only requires a tiny screwdriver blade to press down the lock tab on the factory connector at lock, and a set of diagonal cutters or scissors to trim the extra plastic on the zip ties after you tidy up the harness under your dash. And a small flashlight or trouble light to help see what you are doing. Install is very fast. Removing it would be equally a breeze, and no worries about what might be going on in the ECU due to the fuse being pulled.
As for the $50 being in the con column, it was worth that much to me for the intellectual property of those that figured it out, designed the harness, sourced the raw materials, tested, packed, shipped, dealt with PayPal and everything else involved. Plus the time save not ******* around under the hood pulling the fusebox out and reinstalling it. And my peace of mind is worth a few bucks too.
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To the pros for the harness, it only requires a tiny screwdriver blade to press down the lock tab on the factory connector at lock, and a set of diagonal cutters or scissors to trim the extra plastic on the zip ties after you tidy up the harness under your dash. And a small flashlight or trouble light to help see what you are doing. Install is very fast. Removing it would be equally a breeze, and no worries about what might be going on in the ECU due to the fuse being pulled.
As for the $50 being in the con column, it was worth that much to me for the intellectual property of those that figured it out, designed the harness, sourced the raw materials, tested, packed, shipped, dealt with PayPal and everything else involved. Plus the time save not ******* around under the hood pulling the fusebox out and reinstalling it. And my peace of mind is worth a few bucks too.


I second this. $50 was well worth it. Bc I look at it as saving me $500 + tax + towing + saving the stress of Not having to watch my car go up a flat bed by someone who could give a fu€|< about my car + being without a car if my lock failed.

Even if I didn't per order before the fuse method came out I still will have got the harness. I was never a fan of doing anything to the fuse box in any of my cars. Even going all the way back to the fast and furious days of interior neon lights and people tapping the power wire under a fuse haha.

Now I get in my car and hit the start button with no worries if the lock will fail
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Hello I have a 2009 nissan 370z i got stranded and dont know how to get the steering wheel into unlock mode anyone help? Then after i get it to unlock mode Ill remove the fuze then hopfully will start.
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^ it wont unlock if its already failed.
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Hello I have a 2009 nissan 370z i got stranded and dont know how to get the steering wheel into unlock mode anyone help? Then after i get it to unlock mode Ill remove the fuze then hopfully will start.
It does not work on the 470Z that you say you drive.
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