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i dont want signal wire hanging.

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Old 05-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #121 (permalink)
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i dont want signal wire hanging.
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i dont want signal wire hanging.
Can't you just cut off more wire so it doesn't hang then? Snip snip! lol
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Can't you just cut off more wire so it doesn't hang then? Snip snip! lol
goes back to the earlier post, defeats the purpose.
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goes back to the earlier post, defeats the purpose.
Unless you're doing the occasional steep hill parking like we do in SF and I want to securely curb my tire? Or is that whole step pointless too, to aim your tire towards a curb when on an incline/decline, and have the steering wheel locked. If it isn't a big deal for the wheel to be locked if I'm pointed towards a curb, then I agree, no point in having the wire there at all then.

Do you think it is secure enough to just have your wheels turned towards a curb for incidents like this? Or will the weight of the car going downhill rotate the steering wheel so it no longer remains curbed and then goes down the hill? I ask cuz I just want to make sure it is safe in this regard and cuz I don't really know.

If there is merit for having the steering wheel locked and turned on an incline, I'd risk turning the steering lock to active via a switch for those occasions and back to de-active the rest of the time. Easier to hit a switch than unhook and then rehook the connectors each time i want to active/deactivate it.
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What's with the cutting? That's the reason for the "bypass plug" so nothing has to be cut. The lock just sits there unlocked all the time and the "car" thinks it's working properly so no warning light. Unplug the lock, plug the bypass into the lock, then put the original plug back into the bypass. I think this is how it would go.
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axio- if you have a spare steering lock like me and a few others, yes, that can be an option. but wat if you turn the lock on, and it dies? you can't revert to no-steering lock condition as kelly explained unless you get a steering lock that works.

wat the hotwire harness is doing is to freeze the mechanism in the unlocked state. in order to do that, you need a working steering lock.
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I thought the parking brake was for uphill/downhill parking...Just like the cars that come from the factory with no steering lock (2012 370Z, and many others)...
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axio- if you have a spare steering lock like me and a few others, yes, that can be an option. but wat if you turn the lock on, and it dies? you can't revert to no-steering lock condition as kelly explained unless you get a steering lock that works.

wat the hotwire harness is doing is to freeze the mechanism in the unlocked state. in order to do that, you need a working steering lock.
Yes, I understand that. So basically the best option then, for use that don't have a spare working steering lock, is to use the harness, no switch, and not even park in a spot that is steep enough where we should consider curbing our tires because there is no guarantee the steering wheel will stay in that same position should something happen.

I mean I get it. The risk of activating the switch is that it might never unlock. So I guess I should just park on flat land and keep looking for a parking lot in SF instead of the street!
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I thought the parking brake was for uphill/downhill parking...Just like the cars that come from the factory with no steering lock (2012 370Z, and many others)...
Yeah, just worried if I got tapped hard by shitty parallel parkers. Happens all the time in SF... you should see my wife's car... the bumpers on her TSX are trashed.
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Yeah, just worried if I got tapped hard by shitty parallel parkers. Happens all the time in SF... you should see my wife's car... the bumpers on her TSX are trashed.
Turn your wheel to the curb...what your supposed to do, once the wheel get wedged in to the curb from being hit it won't move....
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If that's the case, there probably isn't a need for a harness then, other than to test if cutting the wire works (without having to trouble ourselves into re-soldering the wires back if it doesn't).
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Yes, I understand that. So basically the best option then, for use that don't have a spare working steering lock, is to use the harness, no switch, and not even park in a spot that is steep enough where we should consider curbing our tires because there is no guarantee the steering wheel will stay in that same position should something happen.

I mean I get it. The risk of activating the switch is that it might never unlock. So I guess I should just park on flat land and keep looking for a parking lot in SF instead of the street!
do you have a RC car or any model car where the front tires turn? if so, place it on a floor next to a wall and pretend you are parking that car on an incline. turn the front tires away from the wall and pull the car back. you will see that the tires catch the wall and steering does not turn the other way.

same if you point the tires towards the wall and push forward. the tire will just bite into the wall, given that the model's tires are pretty sticky.

you shouldnt have issues parking your car without the steering lock if you let the tires bite into the curb a little bit by rolling it forward/aft as you normally would. just give it a try on your car without turning the car off. it's the same as if the steering lock is completely deactivated from the car.
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Good point. It should just catch up against the curb. In that case, like I said above, no reason for a harness other than a few people to test whether no #1 wire intact works fine, without having to solder the wires back.
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Good point. It should just catch up against the curb. In that case, like I said above, no reason for a harness other than a few people to test whether no #1 wire intact works fine, without having to solder the wires back.
yep, but most of us would rather not cut anything if there is such a harness available. biggest reason being, we still dont know if this deactivated state causes any side effects for the rest of the car, especially BCM, IPDM, ECU interaction long term.
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True. In that case, let's hope these harnesses come out sooner than later.
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