I'll have to get mine when i get back from ZdayZ.

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Price? and some actual pics please!

:iagree:

Brian hasn't come up with a cost or even a time frame yet for when he will be able to offer them to the masses. So far only some of us have been given access to them for beta purposes. As soon as he has everyone report back I am sure that he will be on top of this ASAP as he has with everything else to help out our z community! So I think a GB is a little premature......

It's probably made from Sumitomo connector TH08FW-NH (6098-5269) and TH08MW-NH (6098-5271) with a missing pin#1.

http://www.the370z.com/members/zero-...connectors.jpg


Great work for those who confirmed it works :tup::tup:

I ran some errands with the car today, getting out on public streets for the 3rd time this year. Started and stopped it 6 times, and everything is hunky dory.

Great Job!! Thank you for being the 1st and took chance for the group. :tup::tup:

wasn't much of a chance, but I've just been worried it would happen at Zdayz or worse at a track event and cause me to lose a whole weekend.

Glad to help though!

For me the main concern was making sure the connectors were right before committing to hundreds as the minimum orders are always large.

I will post later tonight some pictures of what I'm thinking of for the final product as well as pricing.

great! I can't wait, I'm def in on group buy as well. Having an 09 I too cross my fingers every time I get in my car and my warranty ran out 05/09/2012!

The harness arrived in the mail today and works perfectly.

Putting it in and cutting the wire might take a total of five minutes. I've had the car over three years and I have to say its strange not hearing that lock noise. Its also very nice not hearing that lock noise. Mine had already failed, and I did not want to go through that again.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.

I have an 09 too. I want one

Count me in.

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Pictures:

The prototype:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...0/IMG_4091.JPG

The 4 kits that I sent out for testing:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...0/IMG_4098.JPG

My thoughts for the final kits are to make a single kit that will hopefully work for everyone:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/IMG_4113.JPG

Including those male and female terminal on the brown wire means:
- Those who just want to cut the wire can
- Those who want something more easily reversible on rare occasions can just reconnect the male/female terminals
- And finally those wanting a switch can add one easily without needing to solder or crimp anything.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...0/IMG_4112.JPG

The price will hopefully be the target price of $50 plus USPS priority shipping at $5.15 to continental US.

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Cut my browine - removed from list

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12. -------

:tiphat:

I'm in too - Thanks!

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I should probably get this as well before mine fails

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I am in.

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Looks good

Just curious...Will the wires be loomed or shrink wrapped by chance?

Bdl99 just let us know when your ready. Paypal ready.

I didn't on the test units because there is interest in monitoring the other wires to see what else is possible.

For the production units I wasn't planning on looming or adding shrink wrap but could. I would probably use split loom tubing if I do. I am also trying to keep the cost down wherever possible, the tubing isn't expensive but these will all be made by hand so every additional item adds time and therefore cost.

Will do, I'm just waiting on confirmation of delivery times for connectors and will then open it up.

Are the special connectors driving that price? I was hoping for cheaper, might just go cut.

It is really the low volume that drives the price. The connectors are very hard to come by unless you are prepared to order several thousand and even then you will be faced with long lead times (14-16 weeks is typical). The plug connector is easier to come by because they are used for harness repairs, but the sockets are the problem. If you think about it the socket is on the unit that the harness is plugging in to (be it steering lock, AV unit, etc etc) so in the case of a repair they would replace the unit and therefore don't stock/sell the sockets.

If you were to order 10K and get them mass produced you could probably get it for 1/5th-1/10th of that price, but this is small volume making the connectors more expensive and hand made. The other problem with the mass produced route is the lead time would be 3-6 months with money up front.

Cutting the wire is always going to be the cheapest option. The harness is just for those who don't want to or what to be able to easily reverse.

bdl99- can the wire be shorter? like 2-3" lenght from plug to plug? :)

or is there a reason why it is so long?

Just cut my wire on the stock plug. All is well, no more lock, and no lights. Takes literally 2 minutes to do. Figured i would chime in because not many have cut their wire. Many thanks to Fritz. Not knowing if my 09 rev B would disengage each time was getting to me. Thanks again.

could you take a pic of what you did? location etc

there's not much room down there. hahaha!

i think it'll go something like this. first put your car in ACC (dont start the engine). make sure you hear the steering lock wind.

i suggest pushing back your driver's seat all the way back, put a towel on your side step/door sill area, and lay completely on the floor with your head in the foot well area.

look up and you will see the steering lock just forward of the OBD2 port. you will then pull back the wire harness tubing and find the wire to cut. i think it stated the brown wire. after you cut, then e-tape it.

DO AT YOUR OWN RISK.

I just wanted to see it out of curiousity. I'm going to opt for the harness.

Terminal Extraction Tool
 

Does anyone know the correct terminal extraction tool to remove the pin from the connector? This would seem like the preferred solution over cutting the wire.

Believe it or not cutting the wire might be easier and less risky. They are not the easiest pins to remove, especially in those cramped conditions.. I have a set of pin extraction tools that I've had for a while and not sure where I got them from , but the process is:
-You need to lift the back of the plug
-remove the cover on the front of the plug
-then there is a tab on each pin to hold down while you pull the wire/pin from the other end.

That length was based on the suggestions of those who had looked at the harness or cut the wire.

Is there any reason for wanting it shorter? From what I understand there is plenty of room and the extra length will probably make installing easier and for those wanting to add switches or perhaps further mods in the future those extra few inches may come in useful.

I just stumbled upon this thread and I'm excited to see a solution to this problem. I read the whole thing and I'll admit, for me, its difficult to picture any of this without any pictures for a DIY.

From what I understand, to do a wire snip you just have to get under the dash, pull back the wiring that leads into the Steering Lock and snip the brown?

Can anyone explain how the wire harness will attach compared to snipping the wire?

Correct regarding snipping.

The harness fits between the existing plug and socket on the steering lock, like a very short extension cable. You would:
1) Unplug the connector on the steering lock
2) Plug that connector in to the socket of the harness
3) Plug the other end of the harness in to the steering lock

The benefits of the harness over cutting the wire is that:
- You don't have to cut a wire on the car harness
- There is not much wire to play with when taking the cutting route
- Access is tight when not using the harness and especially when wanting to modify the car harness for switch etc.
- Harness has easy option to add a switch if you wish

That's awesome, so basically with using the harness, you unplug the harness from the steering lock and put new new harness in between the two(that has the brown wire pin missing). Couldn't think of an easier solution.

I might have missed it in the thread but, have you decided on a set cost? And when they'll actually be available? I saw you said it was difficult to find them without purchasing in bulk.

Yes, basically.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/IMG_4113.JPG

The brown wire is there, so you can reconnect (putting car back to stock) without having to remove the harness.

Alternatively if you prefer a switch, to be able to effectively cut or join the brown wire at will. You would just attach a toggle switch to the two brown wires on the harness, like so

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...0/IMG_4112.JPG

I'm just waiting on lead time, we were fairly confident that this would work so I had already given the supplier a heads up, so hopefully not as long as normal, but still waiting on the answer. Price is targeted to be $50