DIY: Oil Cooler Installation on a Nismo (Damper Included!) - vipor

spearfish25 · 02-20-2010, 03:38 PM

Chris,

Did you ever find a 200F thermostat?

Everyone,

No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each?

ChrisSlicks · 02-20-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Chris,

Did you ever find a 200F thermostat?

I did. Race Parts Wholesale said they could get the 200 degree thermostatic plate with a 7-10 day lead time and an up charge. I forget what the exact difference in price was.

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Everyone,

No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each?

The zip tie is not required, the hose holds itself in place all by itself. At this point I would trust those aeroquip fittings more than I do the traditional one given that we've seen two of those blow up so far.

vipor · 02-22-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each?

Aeroquip Socketless Racing Hose
Easy assembly with reusable SOCKETLESS fittings; textile braid reinforcement; available in either blue or black elastomer cover. Patented Aeroquip® elastomer smooth bore inner tube, -45 to +300 F temperature rating. Operating pressure for all sizes at 250 PSI. Applications include fuel, lube, coolant, and air.

Munt · 03-01-2010, 06:09 PM

Very tidy Job and a credit to you, if i was going to install an oil cooler i would be more than happy to start from scratch following your in depth instructions.Im more keen at the moment of doing a cooler for the Auto as i relly enjoy the fast shifting manually either with the paddles or by the shift lever. No heating problems here my oil has never got above 90 degree C but then a hot day here is only 30 degree C and I have not run it on a track.Any Ideas about a transmission cooler??

vipor · 03-01-2010, 07:07 PM

Thanks for the good words

I haven't actually looked into a tranny cooler as of yet, and haven't really heard of anyone having issues either. Don't really know too much about the 7AT though.

NismoZ34_078 · 03-04-2010, 02:24 AM

Excelllent job!!! Great detail write-up. I'm planning to do mine asap.

vipor · 03-04-2010, 09:16 AM

Thanks

Take your time and it'll be easy.

SIDENOTE: Turns out Aeroquip says that zip-tying the hose on the fittings is NOT recommended. I'll be getting under my car sometime soon and inspecting the fittings for any seeping or loosening. The ties will be getting snipped.

ChrisSlicks · 03-04-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

SIDENOTE: Turns out Aeroquip says that zip-tying the hose on the fittings is NOT recommended. I'll be getting under my car sometime soon and inspecting the fittings for any seeping or loosening. The ties will be getting snipped.

So what's the solution then? Mike had nothing and his blew off causing him to crash his car.

vipor · 03-04-2010, 01:28 PM

The Aeroquip Socketless Hoses are designed to stay on by themselves.

The exact cause of his issue is unknown. I know a few people that have been using these for a long time on everything from cars to ATVs to rock crawlers and never had an issue.

abakja1 · 03-06-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

The Aeroquip Socketless Hoses are designed to stay on by themselves.

The exact cause of his issue is unknown. I know a few people that have been using these for a long time on everything from cars to ATVs to rock crawlers and never had an issue.

So what is the verdict on this issue?
I would rather have some kind of backup plan for peace of mind if the hose were to come off somehow. I was thinking of using 1 small hose clamp at the end, but dont know why zip ties wouldnt be recommended. But in reading threads on the web elsewhere, its "designed" to be used w/o any clamps or ties.

In Aeroquip you must trust i guess...we'll see....

I found this topic on a Buick Grand National thread:
Post 21:
"Originally Posted by S10xGN View Post
Why would you think that? I can't see how it possibly could... After installing this hose on my oiling system, I didn't feel "comfortable" with it. Instead of hose clamps, I used a pair of tie-wraps on each fitting.
Reply: According to my local hydraulic shop, he has seen MANY push lock failures due to hose clamps. They are engineered to work with out them. I'll side with him, as that is what he does for a living, and would stand to make a few more $$ selling hose clamps."

Post 22:
Aeroquip specifically states not to use a clamp over the hose and fittings. I can distort the hose and fitting causing a failure. Ive used the parker stuff in transmission stuff. Its also nice. But I cannot find any parker stuff with the nylon braid thats NHRA legal.

Also, it was noted that since it is "clampless", the hose may pull off if there is not enough slack for movement. Thus this movement ends off pulling the hose off the socketless ends . To avoid this, Im leaving a little slack on the Mocal side and oil cooler side..

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Equinox · 03-13-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

I'll be changing mine at 5k intervals more than likely (depending on track time) and dropping the cooler every 3rd change. That should put it at over a year per flush.

There has also been talk about using compressed air to just push the oil through the system and out. Merely disconnect both fittings from the sandwich plate, throw one hose in a bucket (preferably with a lid and a hole in it) and blow in the other.

yeah I was too lazy to drop the core for oil changes intermittentantly so I just mounted the oil cooler upside down. Draw back was I had to take off the front dampner on the nismo, which I don't mind because I still dont' see a gain or loss.

G Fo12ce · 03-13-2010, 01:39 PM

Great job Vipor, thanks for the write up!

+1 rep

370Zsteve · 03-24-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each?

I was going to say something about zip ties deteriorating over time. They become brittle, crack, and fall apart. I've seen it many times on motorcycles.

Oh and Vipor, what a great detailed DIY. Nice to have a tech like your brother, too! Loks like the Dremel Mods were key.

+1 rep

vipor · 03-24-2010, 10:15 AM

I inspected the fittings the other day and I didn't see any sweating or movement. With a couple people having issues I was definitely concerned, but after this many miles and a HPDE weekend I think if something were to happen it already would have.

When I get my headers I'll give everything a better look once it's on a lift. I'll probably get rid of the zip ties too per the manufacturers recommendation.

Thanks for the good words guys, hope it helps you out

Kastley85891 · 04-06-2010, 05:41 AM

Sweet write up and parts costing ;-)

02-20-2010, 03:38 PM	#46 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Chris, Did you ever find a 200F thermostat? Everyone, No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each? __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

03-01-2010, 07:07 PM	#50 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	Thanks for the good words I haven't actually looked into a tranny cooler as of yet, and haven't really heard of anyone having issues either. Don't really know too much about the 7AT though. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-04-2010, 09:16 AM	#52 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	Thanks Take your time and it'll be easy. SIDENOTE: Turns out Aeroquip says that zip-tying the hose on the fittings is NOT recommended. I'll be getting under my car sometime soon and inspecting the fittings for any seeping or loosening. The ties will be getting snipped. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-04-2010, 01:28 PM	#54 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	The Aeroquip Socketless Hoses are designed to stay on by themselves. The exact cause of his issue is unknown. I know a few people that have been using these for a long time on everything from cars to ATVs to rock crawlers and never had an issue. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-13-2010, 01:39 PM	#57 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	Great job Vipor, thanks for the write up! +1 rep __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here!

03-01-2010, 06:09 PM	#49 (permalink)
Munt Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13 Drives: 09 370Z AT7 sport/ Rep Power: 15	Very tidy Job and a credit to you, if i was going to install an oil cooler i would be more than happy to start from scratch following your in depth instructions.Im more keen at the moment of doing a cooler for the Auto as i relly enjoy the fast shifting manually either with the paddles or by the shift lever. No heating problems here my oil has never got above 90 degree C but then a hot day here is only 30 degree C and I have not run it on a track.Any Ideas about a transmission cooler??

03-04-2010, 02:24 AM	#51 (permalink)
NismoZ34_078 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orange County Posts: 9 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 16	Excelllent job!!! Great detail write-up. I'm planning to do mine asap.

03-24-2010, 10:15 AM	#59 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	I inspected the fittings the other day and I didn't see any sweating or movement. With a couple people having issues I was definitely concerned, but after this many miles and a HPDE weekend I think if something were to happen it already would have. When I get my headers I'll give everything a better look once it's on a lift. I'll probably get rid of the zip ties too per the manufacturers recommendation. Thanks for the good words guys, hope it helps you out __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

04-06-2010, 05:41 AM	#60 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Sweet write up and parts costing ;-) __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

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