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04-06-2010, 09:19 AM | #61 (permalink) |
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04-17-2010, 03:55 PM | #62 (permalink) |
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Awesome DIY. The comment later about mounting lines above the sway bar is a little inaccurate as when the suspension is unloaded the sway bar is actually in it's most superior or highest position. My plan at this point is to mount above the sway but will see with the initial fitting/sizing. Again, wouldn't attempt this without this DIY.
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04-18-2010, 10:30 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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Well I did my oil cooler installation today...this DIY by Vipor was invaluable. A few comments about what I did different and the results: I used a Setrab series 6, 25 row and had no issues with contact at the top and consequently did not have to modify the cooler at all. I went with Aeroquip stainless steel AQP hose instead of the Socketless. I did find that trying to go straight off the Mocal oil sandwich plate and thereby routing the hoses above the sway bar was not possible so I went with 90 deg Aeroquip fittings. The stainless AQP hose does cause contact with the removable underbody protector panel but this is quite mild and does not interfere with it's placement. Overall a relatively easy DIY make significantly easier because of the work by Vipor.
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04-19-2010, 07:49 AM | #64 (permalink) | |
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You might want to look into some sort of wrap for the stainless lines however. After a lot of driving (and rubbing) I think you'll find that they'll start wearing away at your splash guard/underbody cover.
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04-19-2010, 11:24 AM | #65 (permalink) |
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Yeah, used 3/4 heater hose split with clamps throughout and worked well. I will say that fitting the adapters to the AQP hose is a bitch....eat your wheaties first!
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04-19-2010, 11:28 AM | #67 (permalink) | |
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My and my brother just took turns working the hose on the fitting. Makes your hand cramp.
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04-25-2010, 10:12 PM | #69 (permalink) |
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Oil Temps after install
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You mentioned your oil temps being very low and outside temps being low. Are you not concened about over cooling. Oil viscosity is dependant upon temperature. I would think that the oil being too cool you are not getting proper lubrication as it is too thick. The same for over temp on oil the oil becomes to thin and starts breaking down quicker. For me the optimum oil temps would be between 220 and 240 this is where the oil has its best shear factor for best lubrication properties. Tell straight up if I am on the right path with this Bill |
04-26-2010, 12:56 AM | #70 (permalink) |
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Ideal oil temperature has been debated here many many times. I have never entered my 'opinion' ; however, having operated oil-cooled engines for the longest time, let me share my guideline that I use (see below)
"As suggested by Bruce Anderson, Porsche guru and author of Porsche 911 Performance Handbook, the optimal temperature range for the Porsche 911 oil-cooled engine is 180ºF to 220ºF. Also, according to Anderson, oil temperatures greater than 230ºF are potentially damaging. Yet, the old loop-style coolers started their thermostatically controlled cooling at 182ºF and later the electric fan coolers started at 244ºF! Again, some “experts” have stated that as material design improvements were made, like synthetic oils, engine parts, and gaskets, engine oil temperature became slightly less critical. However, most “experts” agree that cooler oil is better for engine longevity as long as the engine is operating at an efficient temperature of 200ºF." I am not attempting to compare the Z to the Porsche; I am merely attempting to state what I have using as a guideline for my 'oil temperature range.' Last edited by cab83_750; 04-26-2010 at 01:09 AM. |
04-26-2010, 10:02 AM | #71 (permalink) |
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My car sits at the 180° mark while cruising on the highway, even on 80°+ days. Put me in some traffic and I'll creep up to the 210° mark. I find those temps completely acceptable, regardless of what people are saying ideal temps are. When I'm on the track and pushing it the temps will be more in the range you guys are talking about.
Update 04/26/10 I pulled the front bumper off this weekend to work on my headlights and had a chance to inspect the front half (cooler side) of my install. There were no signs of rubbing or wear, and the hose was still on completely. It did look like there was any tension pulling on anything, and there were no signs of sweating or seeping. All and all I'm still very pleased. I'll be changing my oil in the next few days and I'll give the sandwich plate and fittings there a good look.
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05-25-2010, 01:23 PM | #73 (permalink) |
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So I changed my oil a couple weeks ago and I really took a good look at things.
NOT ONE ISSUE. I had inspected the cooler side when I did my headlights, and now that I got under my car I could inspect the plate and those fittings. Still no leaks, wear, seeping, or sweating. Switched to RedLine too
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08-25-2010, 08:06 PM | #75 (permalink) |
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I've done 2 changes since the install and I've just left the oil cooler alone. The next change at 25K will involve a flush using an air compressor.
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