What does everyone use?? Ming paint protection or X pack or just zaino (please help)

kannibul

If the paint is protected, why would you need a color reviver?


Also, polishing a car doesn't bring out the color. It removes light scratches and swirl marks, which typically happen due to careless washing/waxing...which if this product works as a paint protectant, shouldn't happen, right?

MYZ34

have you had paint protection on any of your previous vehicles? cause if you havn't i was acually after advice from some one who has tried both ways and has an un-biased opinion......

MYZ34

and also even when zaino is used, zaino still needs to be re-applied "Even if there are no scratches/ swirl marks!" it's the same as this paint protection except the reviver only has to be used once per year.

kannibul

No, Zaino is a wax.

The paint reviver your speaking of is a scratch filler if it claims to remove swirls and scratches AND be a once-a-year product (ie, wax) - even then, there isn't a wax in existance that will last a year.

kannibul

Taken from their website. Does anyone see anythign wrong with this?

Heating the paint to the point of where it reflows? Seriously? You heat it to the point of melting...wouldn't that make it to where the paint is marred? Ever hear of buffer burn-through?

Also from their site:

Really? LOL...

Maybe that's true, except that with most polymer waxes (such as Zaino, and Meguier's ZXT, etc) they can claim the exact same thing because there is no *wax* in it (as in carnuba wax), even though that's exactly what it is...

MYZ34

Zaino-CS is an advanced total synthetic polymer protectant (sealent)

kannibul

Protects the polymer in product that is applied to the vehicle to keep it from degrading as fast. The polymer-wax is what "protects" the paint.

Look, if you want to pay someone a LOT more to do a shitty job detailing your car so you think your paint is "protected", have at it.

Just go in knowing more about the product than what some marketing bullcrap will tell you. Be informed, else the (fool + money) = (fool - money)

MYZ34

it's going to go round and round, i just wanted someones opinion that has had this done before and has had to deal with their car with paint protection on it....

MYZ34

i have searched and searched this topic for days and have had the backwards and forth for against and for... but that was not on the Z cars and i know like you and many other people have said regarding the paint on this Z is that it is quit soft, hence why im going to so much effort to find out what will be the best route for this car,

MYZ34

i have only heard good things regarding zaino, but this is usually coming from people who have never tried paint protection and i think to be fair regarding saying if one option is better then the other, one needs to have done both

kannibul

Soft paint is a trend across the auto industry. We can thank the EPA for it (in the US) and since the US is a pretty large market share for most auto-makers, they just apply the same levels of requirements to anywhere else they sell vehicles.

Also, this car sits LOW to the ground, where rocks can easily bounce up and hit pretty parts, especially if you use shorter following distances.

A good coat or two of wax, and maintaining said wax, will protect in most instances of animal droppings. That said, worst case, you take it to a body shop who will clean, wet-sand and shoot clear over it, then you have a better (harder) clear over it anyway. As for rocks, there's nothing you can do about that. Even a clear-bra won't protect against everything...

Salsy1

Zaino all the way. I haven't found better products overall. Its expensive, but so is your 370Z. The shine from Zaino is great.

meven300

Hi, I've also recently been looking into pain protection. I phoned around about 30 dealers yesterday and found the guy who applied the X-Pack, they can do it for about $300 (interior, leather, paint etc) without warranty (1500 - 2000 with warranty). Although i'm still very wary of what they use and how good it would actually be. Considering the labor work involved, it must only cost about 25$ -$60 for all the sealants.

From what i've gathered from forums, the best do-it yourself stuff (sealant) is:

Infinity Glare products (6-12months) (200+) for the pack
nanoplex products (8-12months +, 18,000k) (200+) for the pack

some people talk about Paint Protection Direct - The ultimate paint protection and car polish for your car (Glassepex) who supposedly do a good job as well, although i couldn't find any reference to them other than on the internet. have they even got an ABN...

A lot of Americans are now using www.nanolex-international.com if they seal their cars, although from what i can tell, all the nano sealants are all the same and probably come from the same supplier in Germany.

I did come across a few waxes (although i didn't write them down) that last 6-8 months. However, they take a lot more work to apply then DIY sealant. Therefore it would be probably better to buy a sealant that does not dissolve then put wax on top (assuming the wax wont erode the sealant)

Notes:

* I also phoned around some car insurance and manufactures and they all said they cant recommend any protection as there is not industry standard for it in AUS anyway.

* some sealants require the drivers to wax/condition their car at least once a month (mainly Teflon based)

* I had my old ford focus paint protected (supposedly life warranty), the sealant started coming off about 2 1/2 years later.

MYZ34

hey "meven300"

i had it on my rx8 too but i only onwed the car for 8 months, so obviously i did'nt get to see the outcome of paint protection long term... what type did you have on your ford focus? and what did the company have to say about it?

meven300

Got Crystal Elements Protection (via Ford) , Paint and Interior. You could see where the sealant had worn away on some of the roof. The seats where Ok, although the product they provided to remove marks didn't really work and left a mark of its own.

I didn't actually ask about it at the ford dealer as I'm trading my car in next week for a 2010 Golf TDI.

I must of spent over 10 hours looking at car forums reading about car protection, and there really is no clear answer as to what long lasting protection works and what does not.

I still considering waxing, although its a real pain to do all the maintenance with all these water restrictions.